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NCAA lawsuits

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  1. 96Gatorcise

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    https://theathletic-com.cdn.ampproj...024/01/03/ncaa-proposal-subdivision-lawsuits/

    There is a reason the NCAA has no teeth, they keep getting them knocked out.
    There is more detail on each suit in the article.

    The State of Ohio v. NCAA
    The case: A coalition of attorneys general from seven states, led by Yost in Ohio, filed a federal lawsuit in December challenging the NCAA’s multi-time transfer rule. The complaint argued that any college athletes sitting out because of the rule should be granted immediate eligibility.

    House v. NCAA
    The case: A federal lawsuit brought by former Arizona State swimmer Grant House in 2020 that seeks damages dating back to 2016 for athletes who were not able to earn compensation from NIL. It also seeks revenues from the NCAA and conferences’ media rights deals. The case, which was granted class-action status for the damages portion in November, is being heard in the Northern District of California by judge Claudia Wilken, who previously ruled in the O’Bannon and Alston cases.

    Johnson v. NCAA
    The case: A federal lawsuit that argues athletes should be classified as employees of the NCAA and the schools they attend under the Fair Labor Standards Act and are entitled to hourly wages. It was brought in 2019 by former Villanova football player Ralph “Trey” Johnson, who sued the NCAA and nearly two dozen universities.

    Hubbard v. NCAA
    The case: Yet another federal antitrust lawsuit, this one was filed against the NCAA and Power 5 conferences and seeks back pay of Alston payments (academic-related benefits). With former Oklahoma State running back Chuba Hubbard as a lead plaintiff and seeking class-action status, the complaint was filed in front of the same judge (Wilken) who ruled in the Alston and O’Bannon cases and with the same lawyers who represented the Alston plaintiffs and are representing the House plaintiffs.

    Schroeder v. University of Oregon
    The case: A lawsuit by female athletes against the University of Oregon for alleged Title IX violations. Thirty-two combined members of the Oregon women’s beach volleyball team and women’s club rowing team filed a complaint against the university “for depriving its female student-athletes of equal treatment.” The suit seeks class-action status, requests unspecified damages and to rectify unequal treatment.

    Potential impact: This lawsuit is against Oregon, not the NCAA, but the subject matter will catch the NCAA’s attention. Questions regarding Title IX are sure to be at the center of any significant changes to the NCAA’s operating structure and were quickly pointed to as an area of concern in Baker’s subdivision proposal.

    Carter v. NCAA
    The case: Another federal antitrust lawsuit that was filed in December, it argues that rules prohibiting college athletes from receiving “pay for play” violate antitrust law. The complaint, with Duke football player Dewayne Carter as the lead plaintiff, is also against the NCAA and the Power 5 conferences, and was also filed in the Northern District of California and represented by the same lawyers in the Alston, House and Hubbard cases.
     
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  2. thegatorvault

    thegatorvault All American

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    Yep, cultural Marxism applied to college football with the entire black hole singularity being tied to the ‘free market’. The evil NCAA is gutted after all the decades of student athlete exploitation. How dare you say this sucks?! Yay
     
  3. Ofg8r

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    Well, they will eventually kill the 'golden goose'.
    Will the world care by then?
     
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  4. oragator1

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    It’s likely already withering.
    Viewing Numbers on this year’s semis will likely be really high. A good mix of teams, great games, the controversy around the picks stirring up more interest…but fans are already tiring of all that’s happened the last few years, the loyalty to the sport is not infinite. They will find that out before long if it isn’t cleaned up.
     
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  5. CHFG8R

    CHFG8R GC Hall of Fame

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    What color is the sky in your world? Cultural Marxism? This is capitalism defined. Every lawsuit is about compensation for services.

    Why don't you goofballs go start your revolution and get this over with.
     
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  6. CHFG8R

    CHFG8R GC Hall of Fame

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    Yep. I've never been more down on College Football, but have to admit the idea of the playoff is exciting. It may be the one thing that saves it. Well, sort of. College Football as most of us knew it is dead. This is something new and it's got potential. Just probably not for Gator fans.
     
  7. northgagator

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    I just did a wiki look up on the history of US college athletics scholarships.
    Looks like it started in the US during the late 19th century. The purpose was to attract abled bodied young men to the rowing and the then new sport of football.

    I now wonder, when the Olympic games got their reboot (in 1896), if the athletic scholarships were a way to preserve the athletes amateur status. Back then professional athletes were barred from the Olympic games and golf and tennis tournaments.

    Today, this is no big deal, because the Olympics, golf, and tennis now allow the pros to compete. In other words, lets take off the fancy wrapping paper (AKA amatuerism), and let the schools treat their athletes like the pros they are (in many cases).
     
  8. nawlinsgator

    nawlinsgator GC Hall of Fame

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    Cultural Marxism? How the hell did you reach that conclusion?
    If anything a bit of centralized control is what is called for. It’s a free-for-all right now.
     
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  9. beechgator

    beechgator GC Legend

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    Why can't you reply like a normal person with a reasoned, thought out reply instead of just being a jerk?
     
  10. phatGator

    phatGator GC Hall of Fame

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    I wonder if the players who don’t receive NIL money will eventually sue those who do receive it to make them share the wealth? The running back who gets a boatload of money might not have gotten as much if the unpaid lineman in front of him had not opened up holes. A star quarterback only achieves massive passing yards if the unpaid receivers actually catch the ball.

    It probably sounds crazy, but in today’s climate, who knows?
     
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  11. danmanne65

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    Title 9 really advanced women’s athletics. The USA is better at men’s sports but we dominate women’s
     
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  12. CHFG8R

    CHFG8R GC Hall of Fame

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    Reasoned reply? To idiocy like that? Why?

    And what would a reasoned response even look like? Sorry, but stupidity that deep needs to hurt. . . at least a little.
     
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  13. CHFG8R

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    Real interesting angle. Not sure that was the driving purpose, but you may be onto something there. How do you keep your swimmers, etc. trained in the 4-year interim.
     
  14. 96Gatorcise

    96Gatorcise Hurricane Hunter

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    A large percentage of Olympic athletes get paid as pros. Track and Field has a large pro circuit that Olympians run every year. Very few high level sports have true amateurs.
     
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  15. Crusher

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    Let me know how your lawsuit against your overpaid CEO to get your "share" goes :rolleyes:
     
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  16. northgagator

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    Today there are only two Olympic sports that do not allow professionals. Boxing and Wrestling.
     
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  17. 96Gatorcise

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    Also they call them amateurs but besides the medal they receive a cash award. Is that amateurism?
     
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  18. thegatorvault

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    I'm not sure you understood my post but there was some sarcasm there. My point was that there are some people that think this is all great, because despite all the money generated by college football, it was a one way street where the NCAA/colleges/networks reaped the rewards (powerful) and the athletes (powerless) got the shaft. So now the athletes can get money and transfer as much as they want, and the rallying cry for all of it is the 'free market'.

    I don't happen to agree with all of that but I am really not sure how it gets fixed. I think the transfer stuff can get worked out, but pay to play (NIL) is a different animal. Sucks
     
  19. paidinfull

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    The transfer stuff is going to be much harder to work out once the NCAA inevitably loses this next lawsuit.
     
  20. Claygator

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    Interesting stuff. You have to love the forum shopping here. The Plaintiff's lawyers evidently identified a federal district court judge who would give them what they wanted-I suspect they knew that in advance- and fired away. Only the Ohio case is elsewhere.

    The US Appeals court for those cases--the 9th Circuit- will probably do the same. Left Coast all the way.

    If the NCAA and other defendants fight, and go the distance, this may end up being decided in the Supreme Court.
     
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