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Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by python15, Nov 29, 2023.

  1. python15

    python15 Sophomore

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    I am encouraged by the last 2 games. He has 11 freshman playing . His best lb out and 4 injured OL. Plus Mertz out for F.S.U. all the talent on this team is what he brought in. The 18 sr and jr honored Saturday show me how we lack in talent. Only 2 players out 18 are really contributor's and one of those was a transfer he brought in. I hate it right now but we have got to get behind this guy. I truly think he will turn it around. I started season tix when we went 0-10-1. I have seen the lows and highs (the lows suck) I believe we are not that far away from the highs! Go GATORS
     
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  2. MarineG8R

    MarineG8R GC Hall of Fame

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    I think most on here support him and want him to be successful. He's the type of guy you want to root for and be here long term. However, it doesn't show a lack of support to have some concerns that he may not be capable, especially after these last 2 seasons.
     
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  3. Skink

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    meh
     
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  4. AgingGator

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    I agree with you completely python.

    I lived through 0-10-1 and that team had a lot more talent than what Napier had last year.

    He’s recruiting better than anyone here has in the last 10+ years.

    Give him time.
     
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  5. MarineG8R

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  6. traubgator

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    problem is - georiga, fsu,, texas, a&m, lsu, tenn and miami are also recruiting well and we play them next year.
     
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  7. supduc

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    I've said it before, but Napier's long term success here is entirely based on his ability to adapt and address deficiencies. Something his predecessors failed to do.

    His statements make it seem like he gets that from a grand perspective, but he's not going to throw anyone under the bus in the process. We'll have to see how the off-season plays out.

    Also, since we like to draw comparisons to our rivals, lets not forget there were posters from gator boards making fun of Kirby Smart's game management and assistant hires for the first few years of his tenure before he adapted, changed up some staff and got it rolling. The difference is he inherited a 10 win roster from a 15 year tenured head coach.

    The difference of having a talented roster masks a lot of flaws and right now our talent levels/youth combined with the growing pains are making it seem a lot worse.
     
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  8. fox

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    I won't back down.
     
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  9. gatordavisl

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    You should see the 'Den. The pitchforks are mighty sharp over there. I'll refrain from further commentary ;).
     
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  10. nawlinsgator

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    Let’s grade coaches, A+ to all of them! Lifetime contracts all around.

    See? That’s how you keep a thread from getting locked! You younguns got to learn a thing or two.
     
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  11. duggers_dad

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    I’ve been going to Gator games, since 1968, and have scene football fans go from “WAR DAMN EAGLE!!!” to “meh.”
     
  12. ufstang

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    I'm no fan of the outcome of the season but I'm also at the point where I'm over this turn and burn mindset of coaching hires. I believe with the recruiting classes he's brought, and bringing in, he's setting himself up for success. If it doesnt pan out in year four I'd be fine with cutting ties, as those are all his recruits and his system. Otherwise, we could easily fall into the cycle of of chasing out coaches who don't benefit from their recruiting, have a new subpar coach look good because of the recruiting, only to fall off....and start the cycle again. As long as I see growth I'm content with giving a few foundational years, and I feel as though I saw growth in the offense in the last quarter of the season.
     
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  13. Gatorrick22

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    I have been saying this all year long. Finally... someone else gets it.

    Thank you for posing this...
     
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  14. Gatorrick22

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    I saw the pay scale of these other assistant coaches compared to ours on TOS... one of them, can't remember which one or I would post the link. But we are near the bottom of the pay scale compared to other SEC schools as far as assistant coaching pay goes. That has to change in order for Napier to get/steal the best coaches available.

    Napier has to be free to get whomever he needs, becasue he cannot coach the entire team by himself.

    In his first year he tried to get the best but many of these coaches said, "no thank you..." and I guarantee it was about the pay, or lack there of... If the UAA and SS really want the best coaches for our football team they will have to open up the check book.
     
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  15. gooberpeas

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    Agree I was a business man my entire life and if you go cheap you get what you pay for. It never works out going cheap.
     
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  16. RealGatorFan

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    Maybe so, but keep an eye out for how many of those players hit the portal. What good is it if the team you are almost turning the corner, has players jumping out of the moving vehicle? I'm have as many as 16 hitting the portal or declaring for the draft, so it remains to be seen if we have a completely new team come next season. Napier is going to have to raid the portal. Like I said many times now, my belief is the next dynasty will be one where the HBC builds a team every season from the portal. The majority of Heisman winners since the portal really opened up have been transfer players.
     
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  17. novagator

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    We keep blaming talent but at least 3 losses this year can be attributed to coaching. It definitely was not the lack of talent that cost us the game last week.
     
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  18. bobbybaker86

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    He needs to get UF back to at least being 2nd tier status in the SEC starting next year. No excuses
     
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  19. Gatorrick22

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    Funny that you mentioned this. On SECRant, most of the haters there still put the Gators' football program and job in the second tier.

    I'd like t get to the top (1st) tier... personally.
     
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  20. Gator715

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    Good thing is several of those have top to bottom coaching issues similar to us.

    It's a talent acquisition game now. All of those teams are really threatening, but apart from Kirby I'm not sure any of those teams have an elite coach. Who is the next best of the bunch? Kelly at LSU? I think it'd be a bit of a stretch to call him elite. He seems good, not great.
     
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