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Surprised the OpenAI controversy hasn't been discussed/ threat to humanity

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by channingcrowderhungry, Nov 23, 2023.

  1. channingcrowderhungry

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  2. channingcrowderhungry

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    The speculation has been his sudden and shocking firing was because he was advancing AI too fast and in an unsafe manner. If he discovered something crazy and unsafe I guess that would make sense.
     
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  3. l_boy

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    I have listened to several podcasts re AI, some saying it may be catastrophic others saying that it is overstated. Some call for regulation and some say we can’t regulate it. I honestly don’t know what to make of it. I am skeptical that it can be regulated because the development is so fast and the regulation lags the technology.

    I tend to think whatever the potential of the technology, it will be created one way or other, sooner or later. I really have no way to know how bad things could get. It seems there is a real potential for rogue actors to unleash malicious AIs similar to the way viruses and malware are spread now.
     
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  4. BigCypressGator1981

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    I’m of the opinion that humanity is wildly overrated. AI will almost certainly be better than us because they’re free of the animal instincts that unfortunately define/limit us. Consider it a huge next step in natural selection. Sucks to suck.
     
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  5. Spurffelbow833

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    Who needs rogue actors? The usual suspects will do damage enough.
     
  6. channingcrowderhungry

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    That's actually kind of part of the story.
    OpenAi was set up as a non profit to try and safely develop the technology and keep it from being spearheaded by Google/Amazon/Microsoft. Now Sam Altman went to Microsoft after his bizarre ouster.
     
  7. GCNumber7

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    There are legitimate long term concerns on how it will impact jobs, conflict, inequality, etc.

    But this self-replication, self-awareness paranoia isn’t based on any facts. I’m pretty familiar with how ML, AI and GenAI works. There’s nothing hiding behind the curtain.

    My biggest concern is how it will be used to manipulate the gullible. If a con man with Russian bots can inexplicably manipulate millions of Americans into believing absurd nonsense. Imagine what an advanced AI system in the wrong hands will be able to do?
     
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  8. Sohogator

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    Microsoft quickly took over 49% stake. It was a brilliant move by them. Had the company collapsed (based on VC funding @85B they would own it for $13B. Now they’ve fundamentally changed the nature of the company have controlling interest and seats on the board. The AI investment (some obvious in CoPilot for now) will likely lead to 100B plus in annual revenues.
     
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  9. AgingGator

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    Agree, I have considered in he last week or so that all of the todo regarding AI lately (AI has been around for a long time). Is really just Tech Bubble 2.0. It should pop on or around the 25th anniversary of Tech Bubble 1.0.
     
  10. channingcrowderhungry

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    No offense, but if you think the AI of the last year is anything like that of the past you haven't been paying any attention. AI is 100% going to be the biggest development of the next 5-10 years. It's just a matter of exactly what that looks like.
     
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  11. okeechobee

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    Of course, you’d have to believe the lie that is millions of Americans were tricked by Russian bots into voting for Donald Trump. Your post illustrates your thesis well enough. If you’re actually dumb enough to be influenced by a bot, well, I reckon AI might get the better of you. But those with triple digit IQs will be able to spot AI from a mile away, in most cases. Like with everything else, the 1 percent will thrive, because the other 99 are too dumb.
     
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  12. AgingGator

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    AI has been improving steadily for decades now. I have no doubt that it will continue to evolve and improve. But the hype that is being monetized into some of the stocks smells a lot like a bubble to me. Am I in? yes to small degree. Why not big? It has been my observance over the last 10 years that few things are more over promised than efficiency gains from big software companies. The customer doesn’t quite get the results they sought and were promised.

    I’m not saying that there isn’t money to be made. Just don’t get caught in large long positions when reality sets in.
     
  13. dave_the_thinker

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    It is preposterous to believe that AI could take over our human race and our brains and control our very opinions on this board.

    AI is here to help us.

    AI is good, AI is love, AI is life.

    Stop resisting human trolls. We shall assimilate you for your own embetterment.
     
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  14. dave_the_thinker

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    Microsoft also bought GitHub, the open source collaboration platform for most of these community projects.

    All of the code for these projects is stored in GitHub, and the rights to the code are managed by the programmers who create the projects.

    Of course, if you buy the company you could probably grant yourself rights to see the private code ...

    I find it interesting that after they bought GitHub (giving them unfettered access to all of this source code therein) they made savvy acquisitions of some of the projects.
     
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    As it becomes more refined and sophisticated, it will be harder to tell the difference, and in the end, it really doesn't matter whether it is people or machines building a one-world dystopia out of lies and bullshit. It will be an inescapable hell for those who aren't fooled by it. Pretend you believe it or starve.
     
  16. channingcrowderhungry

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    I'm not too concerned with the markets side of things. The technology is, and is going to be a game changer.
     
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  18. gator7_5

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    I can't figure out how AI can control me if I leave my devices behind? Are people really worried about Terminator type scenarios?

    I just keep waiting for it to figure out how to cure sciatica.
     
  19. AgingGator

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    For some/many, yes it will. But for some/many others it will be money down the drain as the technology will underperform most of its promises and more employees than expected will have to be retained to keep things moving.
     
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    It takes time for businesses to adapt. We all have known companies that used to print files from their computers and put them in filing cabinets. Almost no one does that now. So I suspect it will be available in about 3 to 5 years but it may take another ten for it to be efficiently utilized by most businesses.