Person A: "Hey guys, i found this great pill that when taken has made me feel amazing, improved my spirit, and changed how I treat others! It has changed my life, given me more purpose than ever before, has led me to feed the hungry and invest in the poor...and it is free to anyone who wants it!!!" Person B: "Awesome, where can I get it?! " Person A: "Sorry, I cant tell you that. I am gonna keep it to myself so as to not offend anyone who doesnt like taking pills."
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Fair enough. I thought you were arguing more from a certain Christian perspective. What you've said makes more sense to me if you're essentially agnostic. Personally, I think I have more positive feelings about Christians who are sincere yet perhaps a bit over-zealous than I do with those who use religion for political or social ends and don't even really believe it. But I can see various angles here.
The values we should all live by? At a level fundamental to our species, absolutely. There's no difference between a Chinese, a Russian or an American in that regard. What varies from society to society, are not values, but how those in power exercise that power and how that, in turn, a rouses our baser instincts and encourages us to stray from those values. In our own country, nothing more exemplifies this than how evangelicals who supported Trump - and still overwhelmingly do - have behaved exactly contrary to Christ's teachings. (We all, Christian and non-Christian, know WWJD: reject Trump as a leader of mankind in a heartbeat!)
Are you saying you'd go around with a bottle of pills announcing that message? I doubt it. What makes you think it would be any different if you went around with a bible and went up to strangers with a message about "the good news"? Now if someone came up to you and noted the changes in you, or otherwise asked you about your religious beliefs, your response is not proselytizing. ADD: If you're a good and decent person - and you seem to be - you learned that at home from your parents and significant others. I am absolutely convinced we are who we are in every important respect due to nature and nurture, and that we're pretty much fully formed before we have any understanding of any religion. Faith is important for other reasons. It does not make a person good as much as it reinforces what one is taught during the early years.
You’re acting like there are no hierarchical differences in values by culture. That is absurd. On a base level, there are clear situations with broad cultural support, but there’s a whole lot of cases where this isn’t the case. And we can’t just pretend like those don’t exist.
It was funny. My Tim hating friends all called me when it ran, thinking it would bother me because I was so caught up for him. Not really. I thought it was hilarious and good natured.
For the last 6 or 7 Tuesdays I have been visited by a family of JWs. I have met the mom, dad, and son. Exceedingly nice people and very intelligent. I am interested in the historical aspects of Jesus and want to discuss that but keep getting shown JW videos and booklets that contain subject matter and statements that I will never accept in a million years. Tomorrow is Tuesday and they will be back. I need to find some soft words to tell them I’d rather they proselytize elsewhere. It’s never happened to me but for all you guys that have been told by a woman that you’re wasting your time in a nice way. What were the words.
You just killed one of my favorite jokes, with all those visitations and discussions. Something like this. JW knocks on door, gives initial spiel, invited in, homeowner, says, "well go ahead, what did you want to tell me?" JW: "I don't know; I've never gotten this far". Now you ruined it ;> No good advice, they sound nice, just be honest. But what do I know?
Yeah, my wife flees the room when they show up and can’t believe I talk with them. My father knew the Bible - forwards and backwards and would discuss the Bible, theology, and God at great length till even the visitors began to make excuses for why they had to leave.
Honesty is usually the best policy. Maybe say that you value their time as well as your own and that you don't want to be rude, but the meetings have run their course. Easier said than done of course.
My memory is just fine. He didn’t jabber about Jesus every chance he got. don’t pretend to think I know how Christians think (it’s a mystery!) but he was mature in his faith where as Tebow wasn’t. I do notice that he’s not constantly bringing it up on the SEC network. Don’t know if it’s because he’s similarly matured or they told him to put a lid on it. Anyway this thread has run it’s course. I’m out.
Once he tells me once he can shut his yap. I heard him. It’s like when a friend gushes all about his new girl. Again and again and again and i I secretly despise her and know they’ll break up. Incredibly annoying.
Your memory is terrible. KW was very outspoken. So was Wuerffel btw. Every single post game in the field. Just as much as Tebow and he has devoted his life to his calling.
Well let’s just give paise that he doesn’t do it on the SEC network, along with Finebaum it would be unwatchable