Florida marijuana initiative in jeopardy despite having one million signatures

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Or purchase an infuser as my next door neighbor has.

 

Thanks Lacuna. Cannabutter looks very interesting. I was wondering about the oil-like tincture that one ingests directly with a dropper. Just curious about how that's made, but I guess I could just ask the Googles.

 

I can’t speak for PA, but from what I’ve gathered there are an in trivial number of people who can experience psychotic break, at least according to our kids psychiatrist. It probably isn’t good for anyone already prone to mental illness.

In spite of that I still think it should be legal, and regulated, because the alternative of criminalizing users is worse.

 

You may or may not know the human brain isn’t fully developed until about 24-25 that in part is why younger people engage in far risked behavior than adults.

Coincidence?

More teens are showing up in a Denver ER after using marijuana

“The number of teenagers sent to emergency rooms more than quadrupled after marijuana was legalized in Colorado, a new study finds”

Marijuana-related ER visits climb at Colorado hospital
“The findings come on the heels of a study published last week that found people who smoked strong marijuana on a daily basis were three times more likely to be diagnosed with psychosis compared with people who never used the drug. Intoxication and heart problems were other common complaints in the Colorado hospital study.”

Smoking strong marijuana daily increases risk of psychosis, study finds

Smoking strong marijuana daily increases risk of psychosis, study finds

“Smoking high-potency marijuana every day could increase the chances of developing psychosis by nearly five times, according to the biggest-ever study to examine the impact of pot on psychotic disorder rates.”

“The scientists estimated that people who smoked marijuana on a daily basis were three times more likely to be diagnosed with psychosis compared with people who never used the drug. For those who used high-potency marijuana daily, the risk jumped to nearly five times. The paper was published online Tuesday by the journal Lancet.”



Give it time as it becomes more widespread your kids psych will see it. Ask him why his academy doesn’t recommend its use for depression or anxiety.

High potency (that’s what all the dispensaries sell) is bad stuff for plenty of people particularly young adults.
It’s being marketed as a panacea and there are no studies that prove it does anything.
I’m shocked that the anti ivermectin for covid crowd is standing for this..

 

I’m not disputing any of this. I can see when my daughter has consumed it she tends to eventually react badly. The Pdoc said something like 5-10% of people who consume it will experience some level of lasting psychosis.

Having said that, I don’t think it should be illegal. Polluting the criminal Justice system with pot crimes is a waste of time.

I have no idea how this compares to ivermectin at all and how you define “anti ivermectin” crowd. Ivermectin has no efficacy for Covid but is a useful drug against parasites.

 

Because we're not arguing it's a miracle cure. We're arguing it shouldn't be outlawed. I didn't want to outlaw ivermectin because some folks were stupidly misusing it. If people want to smoke weed or eat edibles, that's their business. They should have the freedom to do it. Their personal use isn't harming anybody else.

If it ends up hurting them, so be it. Choices have consequences. Make people aware of the risks, and let them decide for themselves. That's what we do for cigarettes and cigars.

 

Oh I’m not saying it should totally be outlawed.
It shouldn’t be available to young adults with almost no restrictions.
It shouldn’t be promoted as helping with a litany of diseases for which there is NO basis in scientific research.

As far as how personal use affecting others besides themselves… Well, just go look at it it affects the families they come from, often these aren’t people without families and support. The toll is staggering.
Think about the cost to the already taxed mental healthcare system. That will affect all of us one way or another. What’s the cost to society to help care for young adults who are not able to function?

People are completely clueless about the risks it’s not reefer madness, the high potency stuff now that has been engineered is not the same stuff people smoked decades ago when most of us were growing up.
The info is out there for those that care to look.

Smoking tobacco does cause cancer… after decades and decades of use.
CIP often happens after months of use, a bit different when a 22 year old loses the ability to function for the rest of their life and a 75 year old gets lung CA.

From what I understand in Co they slip a little warning in the bag that it can cause psychosis or mental health issues. Not because they care, but so they have an out to make it hard for them to get sued.

You’re a smart guy do the math, do so research.

Give it ten years when it’s available everywhere, rates in teens shoot up everywhere it’s legalized, do you really think that is a good thing?

The tip of the iceberg is visible, will the ship get turned or is it full steam ahead?

 

If they want to place restrictions on people under 21 or under 18, that's fine. We do that with other vices. But your argument for not legalizing it for folks 21 and over isn't availing to me. It comes with risks. So do plenty of other things that are legal. Make people aware of the risks. Let them decide for themselves if they want to take the risk. That's freedom.

You're also vastly understating the harms that smoking does, not to mention drinking, guns, automobiles, etc.

I think it's less bad than the system we have now. And if we use some of the money we save from not incarcerating people and some of the money we make from taxing weed on mental health and addiction resources, things have suddenly gotten quite a bit better.

 

That number has to be way off. That would be 1 in 10 people who smoke .... no way.

Maybe he meant 0.5-1%. Which even then I'd guess to be high.

 

Yeah I haven’t been able to confirm it elsewhere and agree that seem like an awfully high number. But he’s a pretty sharp guy and well read on research so I’m not sure what to think.

I totally believe there is a percent who are inclined to mental illness anyway who it can have negative effects on but I have no idea what percent that is.

Is there a link between marijuana use and psychiatric disorders? | National Institute on Drug Abuse

 

To your point about the South. When I was running the CBD company; the founder(clearly had no respect for the law; served time for MJ in other times) kept wanting a Pot Leaf in our label. Being a contientious Southerner; I told him if you want to sell this to grandma in Alabama; do not put the devil weed on the fuc**ng label. Those that know; know; those it’s new to don’t need to know. It’s sad that it was put in the bad group. May have saved many lives. One of my favorite

 

Love the unscientific bullshit.

 

Has anyone answered my question? I've been bitchin on the football boards.

 

Well this esplains a lot! 100mg???Do you turn into a skinny guy in torn clothes on all fours asking for water?

 

Since alcohol has been legal for 100 years and High potency THC has barely been legal for a decade it’s very hard to try to compare the two.
Legalization means use goes up( that’s been proven already in kids under 18 when it had been declining for years), eventually you’ll have plenty of data to decide it wasn’t a great idea.

Just hope your kid isn’t one of the unlucky ones who loses their mind smoking the miracle drug…

 

So what you're saying, without any data, is that alcohol has been around 100 years so it will naturally have more data pointing to being more detrimental to our society?

 

It’s interesting that we have different views on what the issues are. I guess it means different things to us depending on who we are. I think the reason why a federal ban still has relevance is because of federal institutions. So… federal crimes involving marijuana would still exist, as well as bans on federal employees (FBI, military, CIA, and any other bureaucrats) usage. I used to live in Colorado, but even if I wanted to, I never could partake, because of my Army Reserve status… not that I wanted to partake.