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Trump's Troubles

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by G8trGr8t, Feb 13, 2021.

  1. G8trGr8t

    G8trGr8t Premium Member

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    in the face of overwhelming evidence to the hung jury, a reasonable judge should make a ruling. One would hope so in the event that a cultist was seated on the jury and refused to recognize the validity of the evidence presented to them.
     
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  2. G8trGr8t

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    I'm thinking at least 4 - 6 years of trials and appeals and then he requests compassionate release. maybe a short house arrest period at ML
     
  3. duchen

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    No. It is still a state case, but would be tried in a federal court.
     
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  4. duchen

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    They have a lot of cooperating witnesses. 30 unindicted co conspirators
     
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  5. Sohogator

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    I’m going to need a “Let’s Go RiCO” boat flag.
     
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  6. G8trGr8t

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    Lot of bigoted opinionated people don't register to vote
     
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  7. GatorJMDZ

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    Yep. They found people were either not registering or requesting removal from the voter rolls to avoid jury service. That triggered the switch.
     
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  8. Sohogator

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  10. duchen

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    Before he got involved with Trump, he was a successful partner at Greenberg Traurig. A large now national law firm. The firm asked him to leave early in his involvement with Trump and look where he is now. But he does have the love of Trump’s base and will continue to do so as long as he protects Trump. Just one of many examples of the disloyalty from the Top Down. Loyalty is a one way street on Trump land.
     
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  11. g8rjd

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    Meadows has noticed removal of the case to federal court. The court will independently review the notice and Georgia can and will file a motion to remand. Unlike a civil removal, the state case can and will still proceed during this process (booking, arraignment, etc), but the state court cannot enter a judgment while the remand issue is considered.

    For those interested, the substantive provision for this is 28 usc 1442. The procedural provision is 28 usc 1445. HTH.

    Edit: a few corrections. 1455 is the provision. Also, unlike civil remand, a motion to remand is not necessary. 1455 says that the court will do a summary review to see if remand is appropriate and, if not, will set a prompt evidentiary hearing before making a decision. As I noted down thread, Judge Jones did that and set a hearing for 8/28.
     
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  12. duchen

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    Unlike pundits, I believe that election integrity is an official duty of the executive branch. There is a federal office of election integrity. So it is within their official duties. While crimes for personal benefit fall outside their lawful duties, the statute is designed to reach crimes charged to have been committed in the performance of those duties. Meadows filed his motion almost immediately, so his lawyers were ready.
     
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  13. g8rjd

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    Notice. Removal is by notice. It happens automatically. Remand back to state court is by motion. Look at 1445.
     
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  14. tampagtr

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    Stolen - joke on the adage that a prosecutor can get a GJ to indict a ham sandwich

    DT ham.jpg
     
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  15. duchen

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    I know how it works. I don’t expect a remand. Oh, I see. I typed “motion” instead of notice. I am confident that his attorneys have already briefed remand. And I suspect that the DOJ will weigh in Amicus in opposition to remand
     
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  16. g8rjd

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    They drew Jones. A pretty good draw for Georgia.
     
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    In Ga anyone 18 or older is eligible for jury duty, whether registered to vote or not, unless specifically deemed ineligible.
     
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    I had a buddy who never registered to vote in Georgia. He said it was so he wouldn’t be called for jury duty. He was called for jury duty. Don’t know if he lied or they used different pools.
     
  19. duchen

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    I don't think being in federal court is necessarily more favorable to the Defendants.
     
  20. g8rjd

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    Larger geographic jury pool. More on paper, less in court. Less familiarity with the nuances of the judge. Can throw the state off tilt a bit. But with that draw, it’s all but strategic about which forum.