PragerU standards to be used in Florida?

Lol.. and "Grooming" is NOT fringe? I think we should just go back to normal curriculum, and forget the sexualization/gender-bender BS part.

But I have no problem with teaching kids to LOVE OUR COUNTRY.

 

By contrast, in Newsomalia, death and mutilation threats are the standard. That is if parents are notified before experimenting on their gender confused kids.

 

Grooming is fringe, and DeSantis and the DOE need to stop doing it!

 

Florida leadership has relationships with groomers going all the way to the top.

 

Since you're so obsessed with grooming in school, here's a link for you, cause it's clearly happening in plain view at this place:

Pet Grooming School Fort Lauderdale, FL | Merryfield Academy

Beyond that, do you have a link that institutionalized grooming is going on in Florida's public schools necessitating a full blown curriculum change. ? if so, please post it here for the rest of us.

 

Is it too hard for you to understand that sexualizing children is NOT what schools are for? Is that too difficult for you to understand?

 

As I said in my edited post (which I edited while you were typing) please point out to us where children were being sexualized in school as part of an overall curriculum that needs to be modified on a state-wide basis, other than posting some pablum trash from fringe sites that belch out the word "groomer" in genuflective response to anything they don't like.

Is that too difficult for you to understand?

You gonna tell your kids they can't see Mrs. Doubtfire? They may cross dress afterwards. Let's ban it. How about the Bible? Plenty of sexual references in there.

I'll wait here.

 

so not state standards? I’m confused. And, what exactly are you asking a fellow Gator to provide to you? Tell me your definition of grooming and I will see if I can find some stuff to satisfy your curiosity.

 

I’m not that curious, and I’m not the one who said grooming was occurring in Florida schools, so why should I have to define it?

If you’re going to tell me it’s happening on enough of a wide scale basis for curriculum to be modified, as my fellow Gator did, then he should at least know what it is in order to reach that conclusion.

Seems my fellow Gator has defined it simply as “sexualizing children”, whatever that means, so perhaps he can provide examples as to where actual state sanctioned curriculum specialized children such that it needed to be changed on a wholesale basis (beyond the random bad classroom actor behaving inappropriately with children in violation of current laws and standards, which no one supports).

 

None of this shit is happening in schools like the GOP claims it is, it’s just not. Stop falling for the made up culture war bullshit and be more concerned about the fact that all the actual groomers being caught are almost exclusively on the right. I assume you oppose pastors and preachers as well since those are some of the most well known groomers in the game.

 

100%, and everyone wonders why teachers are leaving the state in droves. Calling those responsible with educating our children pedophiles out in the open with absolutely no proof is appalling and abhorrent behavior, especially coming from the child of two since retired educators.

 

you asked someone to provide you examples of grooming, and I only asked you what your definition of grooming is. Certainly seems reasonable if you want someone to present you examples, that you’re on the same page with each other. I could send you a link to a dog grooming video and you would respond that’s not what I’m talking about. So why waste the time? Why don’t you just tell me what grooming means to you that you’re claiming doesn’t exist. You’re the one that asked for examples.

it seems to me that if you don’t know what grooming actually means, it’s rather dickish to claim that a fellow Gator is wrong by asserting that there is grooming going on. If you’re not sure what the term means, or how that poster is using the term, wouldn’t it be better for you to ask him what the term means, rather than denying it actually exists?

I’m not trying to pick on you in particular, but it seems a common thread with a lot of people on this message board. They use words, and when asked to provide a definition, they can’t or won’t. How can you have a discussion or a debate if you and your opponent aren’t even talking about the same thing? It just seems silly to me.

 

You’re making my own argument back to me.

This is silly and circular. Has he retained you as his board counsel?

He said grooming was happening, not me.

I asked him to provide a link supporting his claim that grooming needed to be removed from the curriculum and that we should go back to “normal curriculum” (whatever TF that means).

If he thinks it’s happening, then he should define what he thinks it is and prove his claim. My definition of grooming is irrelevant as to the basis of his claim. It doesn’t matter.

If that’s dickish, then well, I’m being a dick but I didn’t make the claim that it was happening in the first place.

If you’re gonna claim it, own it. I’d suggest you read the conversation with my fellow Gator in sequence before calling me silly.

And back to your original question of me. I never said there shouldn’t be standards. I asked where the current standards institutionalized grooming in the first place, as was implied by my fellow Gator. .

 

you seriously don’t seem to get the point here. If I tell you that Tim Tebow is world renowned clarsach player, and you don’t know what a clarsach is, you don’t tell me “no he’s not, prove it.” Instead, you say what’s a clarsach? How can we discuss the truth or falsity of a proclamation if we both aren’t on the same page of the topic? In this case, how can you refute someone else’s claim, when you can’t even explain what that claim is? You’re kind of putting the cart before the horse, don’t you think? It’s a common approach on this message board.

now, I understand your point about the person who makes the ‘proclamation” using vague terms like grooming should offer some guidance or definition of the term. But he/she didn’t here, so my point is rather that proclaim the poster wrong, perhaps be more civil and ask for clarification.

I personally don’t know what, if any, is the standard definition of grooming. I think of it as a 50 year old male pervert, probably from Athens Georgia, who exposes a young girl to continuous positive attention to build a rapport with the girl in order to trick her into a sexual relationship. But it has a much broader meaning in today’s world.

 

I seriously do get the point. But I’m not sure why you’ve chosen to die on this hill which didn’t involve you in the first place, other than your perception that our core partisan leanings don’t align so you’ve decided to dig in a bit with me for no real reason. Then you somehow criticize me for taking what you think is a “common approach” here of putting the cart before the horse. He made the claim. That’s the horse. I asked for proof. That’s the cart. Seems the order was correct.

But I’m not going to define something for someone who has a years long history here of making claims with no back up, or with back up that’s debunked within 3 posts of the claim. He’s called me a communist here more times than Putin’s been called one. So no, I’m not going to lead the horse to water so he can tell me it’s wet.

And when I see you chastise someone here on the right for not being civil or being “dickish” (seriously?) when they are asking someone on the left for proof of an absolute claim, then I might take seriously your admonition that I should do the same.

 

Those screaming "indoctrination!" about schools were not only ignorant; they were projecting. This is yet another overt attempt by the FL gov to weaponize schools. As for Prager U's contributions to education in FL, what could possibly go wrong?

Florida approves use of Prager U conservative content in schools | wtsp.com

PragerU, founded in 2011 by conservative radio host Dennis Prager, describes itself as "a free alternative to the dominant left-wing ideology in culture, media, and education." The PragerU Kids content features videos that cover topics such as historical events and figures, religious and Biblical stories, and America’s system of government.

 

wow. I just asked you to put forth the meaning of the concept you were denying, so I could possibly find source material that you requested to demonstrate the truth. You have a lot of hate in you bro. Let it out before it consumes you.