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Are we being pushed into another Civil War?

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by UFLawyer, Jul 18, 2023.

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  1. Jul 18, 2023 #81
    Trickster

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    THIS is why I wonder whether you are really a lawyer. No one with more than 30 days experience as a criminal lawyer would EVER make such an absurd statement. The evidence against him is OVERWHELMING and is resulting in an indictment.
     
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  2. Jul 18, 2023 #82
    UFLawyer

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    try again Einstein. I condemned violence and blamed no one. I said violence will be a consequence of the left’s blind orange man bad mantra because no one is playing chess and understanding the consequences of this move.
     
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  3. Jul 18, 2023 #83
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    I don't think you're giving the country and it's citizens enough credit, Lawyer. I understand the concern about resultant violence, but why do you think the whole country is going to lose it's mind and go to WAR?
     
  4. Jul 18, 2023 #84
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    Okay, here is you claiming that his conduct doesn't rise to criminality (i.e., he is not guilty of criminal conduct):

    And even in this post, you refer to the charges as "ridiculous" before we even know what they are.

    So yeah...
     
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  5. Jul 18, 2023 #85
    UFLawyer

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    BWAAAAHAAAAAHAAAAA. Keep talking cowboy. You have no idea how an indictment works. God help our Country.
     
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  6. Jul 18, 2023 #86
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    Um, first of all you are literally preemptively blaming someone in this post right after you said you blamed no one.
     
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  7. Jul 18, 2023 #87
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    Trump filed to run for reelection needless early to put himself exactly into this circumstance--so he could claim any prosecution was political.

    We can't have a system where a criminal gets to crime as POTUS with no repercussions. We can't have a system where you just file to run for office as yet another shield from prosecution.

    I hope dies in prison as he should and I don't care what his fans think.
     
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  8. Jul 18, 2023 #88
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    Is english your first language? classic.

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  9. Jul 18, 2023 #89
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    Hey man, Einstein's first language was German, ok?
     
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  10. Jul 18, 2023 #90
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    Right? He is just being overdramatic as usual. And we are supposed to believe the crowd that was terrified of a vaccine is going to lead an armed insurrection? lol. They’ll just sit on their couch and post memes about the upcoming civil war.
     
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  11. Jul 18, 2023 #91
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    I've been involved in more than 30, but less than 50. I know exactly what goes into making the decision to file one. Prosecutors who file flimsy or frivolous ones don't last long. Jack Smith is the cream of the cream, and he notified Trump today that he's about to be indicted. If I were you, I wouldn't dig your hole any deeper by questioning his bona fides.
     
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  12. Jul 18, 2023 #92
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    These people are so spooked by those 2020 protests, but dont realize that it was basically a once in a lifetime pandemic type event situation where people literally didnt have shit to do and for once wanted to get the hell out of their house and do almost anything. Chilis is open again, and you might miss two for one apps on Thursday if you go to jail.
     
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  13. Jul 18, 2023 #93
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    Kind of like Newtons 1st and 3rd laws of motion. Once set in motion (the 1st shot, which I unfortunately see as inevitable), that will be met with two shots in response …and inertia will carry it forward. Once the violence is set in motion, it is going to get bad in my opinion. I foresee it being George Floyd on steroids. The George Floyd riots for the most part were one-sided. Nobody was really fighting back other than a weak attempt by the police. I feel like this next battle, both sides are going to be fighting back. We are sitting on a powder keg in this country with the division between right and left, man and woman, Rich and Poor, you name it….. there’s a division. This message board is a prime example. All of us here have a commonality in that we are university of Florida grads, but the intolerance here two different ideas is just a microcosm of what is out in the real world.
     
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  14. Jul 18, 2023 #94
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    That’s it? That’s where you think I claim that Trump is innocent. Do you know what the term innocent means? Apparently not. Try harder.
     
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  15. Jul 18, 2023 #95
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    Unless we get another pandemic you arent going to get a George Floyd situation where people literally have nothing to do, arent working, have been trapped indoors for months with pent up frustration ... The only type of conditions that would create that are basically a massive economic failure, where the economy craters and you have a lot of people with little to lose.
     
  16. Jul 18, 2023 #96
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    Wait, so as a lawyer, you are not obligated to put the word Lawyer in your handle?
     
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  17. Jul 18, 2023 #97
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    Someone should have told me you didnt have to include 'gator' in your handle, would have come up with a better one
     
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  18. Jul 18, 2023 #98
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    You are really trying to claim that your claim that nothing he did "rose to the level of criminality" is not a claim that he is innocent of criminal actions?
     
  19. Jul 18, 2023 #99
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    I have no idea what your qualifications may or may not be regarding indictments. But it makes no difference because here’s what I do know. You don’t have any idea what evidence was presented before the grand jury. No idea whatsoever. Because that information is unknown to you and I. You may know the argument being made by the state as to what the evidence shows because you may have read the indictment, but you don’t know what the actual evidence is. You have not seen the evidence. Second, none of the evidence was subject to cross-examination or counter evidence. None of the evidence was subject to motion practice to exclude it. This is why you can indict a ham sandwich.
     
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  20. Jul 18, 2023 #100
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    Neither do you, despite you pre-determining that the charges were "ridiculous."
     
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