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"We’re the Mommies for Liberty and the future belongs to us"...

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by luvtruthg8r, Jul 3, 2023.

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  1. Jul 3, 2023 #1
    luvtruthg8r

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    This satirical essay is a perfect assessment of the very small minority of crackpot citizens who, along with politicians like DeSantis, are using governmental power to force the vastly larger majority to live according to fundamentalist Christian theology, and to prevent the honest teaching of our history.

    "Us Mommies started our group to stop the radicals wrecking our schools and sexualizing our children and poisoning our Christian democracy with their 'facts.' Some of us got together one afternoon over pimiento cheese and white Zinfandel to talk about how it sucks (pardon my French) that the TV liberals won’t do a 'Real Housewives of Titusville' (because me and my friends would be awesome!) and decided we might as well destroy Florida’s public school system instead."

    "It’s true the Indiana Mommies quoted Hitler on the front page of their newsletter (maybe inside would have been better?). Of course the so-called media made a big hairy deal out of it."

    "The girls slapped back on the Twitter: 'Everyone knows Hitler is bad. This is intentional dishonesty in reporting, but we aren’t surprised — all they want is clicks. Do better @indystar'.”

    "OK, so Hitler’s 'bad.' But you have to admit the guy said some smart stuff: 'He alone who OWNS the youth, GAINS the future.' Can you argue with that? No, you cannot."

    More at:

    https://floridaphoenix.com/2023/07/03/were-the-mommies-for-liberty-and-the-future-belongs-to-us/

    Moderate and independent voters are already rebelling, and the rebellion is growing, because most Americans are alarmed at the 1984 nature of this very toxic movement.
     
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  2. Jul 3, 2023 #2
    danmanne65

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    I hope and believe that in the next election these knuckle dragging troglodytes will lose everything everywhere. It is scary that there are politicians who pander to these morons.
     
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  3. Jul 3, 2023 #3
    rivergator

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  4. Jul 3, 2023 #4
    duggers_dad

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    I’d prefer blunt defiance over political partisanship where one side is as feckless as the other.
     
  5. Jul 3, 2023 #5
    WarDamnGator

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  6. Jul 3, 2023 #6
    rivergator

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    We’re pretending that moms for liberty isn’t partisan?
     
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  7. Jul 3, 2023 #7
    duggers_dad

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    No, I’m saying every bit as partisan as you are.
     
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  8. Jul 3, 2023 #8
    uftaipan

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    Context, though. Never heard of this group. Probably don’t care for their agenda. But that quote from Hitler is clearly being used as a warning, not an endorsement. The whole purpose of the Hitler Youth Program was to break children from the authority of their parents, and it was scarily successful in that regard. For further reading, William Shirer’s opus Rise and Fall of the Third Reich goes into great detail about the Nazi strategy to corrupt the youth and separate them from traditional German values. The group in question does not seem to be advocating for taking charge of the youth the way Hitler did but rather warning against letting the state separate children from the values of their parents the way Hitler did.

    And before anyone asks, I don’t know the context of the Abraham Lincoln quote, so I’m not about guess what their point was on that one.
     
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  9. Jul 3, 2023 #9
    swampbabe

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    You’re lucky that you haven’t heard of them. They are running roughshod over school boards, districts, and teachers here in Florida.

    Their goal is to control education in a Christian Nationalist kinda way. They’re backed by dark money and they want to make teachers absolutely miserable if they don’t conform/buy into their nonsense.

    I went ahead and retired rather than fool with their nonsense. There’s no way that I will take the chance of a complaint/investigation because some Moms for Liberty yahoo decided that she didn’t like something I said in class (that she heard second/third hand)

    My district would throw me under the bus as we currently have a QAnon nut bag and a Proud Boy on our board and I’d be on the hook for my own legal representation.

    In addition, our new superintendent had an affair with one of the founders of Moms for Liberty. No thanks.
     
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  10. Jul 3, 2023 #10
    duggers_dad

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    The thing about resisting tyranny is that it can’t reduced to resisting the whims of an evil few.

    Some people up there, out there, i. e., …

    Government.

    Recall that Americans (probably your own friends and neighbors) clamored for lockdowns and mask and vaccine mandates.

    This is why I don’t trust Americans to ‘find our way to freedom’ through the intermediaries we call politicians.

    I had hail and hearty ‘don’t tread on me’ friends who disowned me for not buying into Covid tyranny.

    What I’m suggesting is the populace is more likely to fall for more government than for ‘government’ to fall.

    To open defiance I add disengagement where possible. Home schooling would be an example of the latter.
     
  11. Jul 3, 2023 #11
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    No one cares about the point of your message if invoking Hitler is the only way you can make it.
     
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  12. Jul 3, 2023 #12
    uftaipan

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    Something tells me that you didn’t care much about their point even sans the Hitler quotation. Call that a hunch.
     
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    duggers_dad

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    See ? This is exactly my point. One group wants to commandeer government indoctrination centers to disseminate Christian nationalism, whereas other want Moralistic Therapeutic Deism as taught by drag queens. Better to abandon the apparatus.
     
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    No, nor yours for that matter if you really must know.
     
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  16. Jul 3, 2023 #16
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    I vehemently disagree! These people actually DO want to own the youth of the USA, not with the exact end results of Hitler's mass mind control efforts, but instead, they are seeking to own the youth via the end results of THEIR mass mind control efforts. They are attempting to separate America's youth from the values of their moderate and progressive parents, a group that is by far a majority in our country. And yes, some of their goals, certainly not all of them, are strikingly similar to Hitler's.

    How? They are attempting thought control by pushing their right-wing agenda in schools in an effort to warp the curriculum of public schools, leading to a dishonest teaching of history; by banning books not reflective of right-wing ideology; by controlling the speech of public-school teachers; and a lot more that we have seen them attempt to do over the last couple of years. You can be sure that they will circle around again to try to force the teaching of religion in science classes...they never really stopped. And there is an undeniably fascist leaning element in their attempt to use the power of government to accomplish their extreme, fundamentalist-specific agenda.

    Owning the youth is EXACTLY what they want to do. They are, like usual, doing EXACTLY what they claim moderates and progressives have done (but which they have NOT done). That is the usual modus operandi of the right wing: accuse liberals of doing something they are in fact NOT doing, and then do that exact same thing in reverse.
     
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  17. Jul 3, 2023 #17
    uftaipan

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    I was never unclear on that.
     
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  18. Jul 3, 2023 #18
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    Adding to my previous posts, there is no truth in Truth Social; no news in Fox News; no support for freedom by the Faith and Freedom Coalition; and with the possible liberty from mask mandates no support for the concept of liberty from Moms for Liberty.
     
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  19. Jul 3, 2023 #19
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    They are a menace.
     
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    If you believe this you really need to take your head out of the sand.
    The left has been indoctrinating children for decades.

    Both sides are trying to capture the youth to their side.
     
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