Is this a comment about the “morals” of women when they meet a star, or comments about Trump’s personal actions? Did he say “I grab them by the pussy”. Does he say the women protest, or does he say the women let famous people have their way? Nothing in what you posted says Trump admitted or bragged about sexually assaulting women. Nothing. You are free to use conjecture and even try deductive reasoning. You are free to draw inferences and conclusions. You can have opinions. All of those are awesome. But you are not allowed to state as fact that Trump sexually assaulted women based upon that video….because that is just silly. Was this a douche comment by Trump: yep. But I’ve said worse, and most of the people on the board have too.
I see your therapy is working and your therapist has you doing a little introspection. Get better. I’m pulling for you.
Well counselor. I can say whatever I want. You "allowing" it is immaterial. As for you saying worse, I assume I wouldnt vote for you either Now as to your post. When you state that you know that you can grab them by the pussy and that you kiss them without waiting. That implies that you are jot getting consent. I did not say he admitted to assault in a literal sense. But yes, I am 100% of the opinion that the words on that video are quite damning and speak to a predatory sense of entitlement. If it was your wife or daughter that he didnt wait to move on, my guess is you would not be so forgiving. You and I certainly agree on many things. Biden is a terrible president and isn't physically fit to have the codes. We likely agree on many things political. What I will not agree with is that Trump is not exactly what he has bragged about.
Poor sad Con can only try to resort to mundane semantics since the facts are unassailable and Trump has tapes of his pathetic past statements. And no, sport not everyone holds the misogynistic attitudes and makes disgusting statements as you say you and Trump do. Be a man and seek professional help, that's a unhealthy attitude.
It's a reasonable and rational to draw the inference from Trump's statement he grabbed women by their genitalia even if didn't explicitly admit doing so and his statement "when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the p*ssy. You can do anything,” can be interrupted several ways which are not mutually exclusive by the way. One interpretation is that they let Trump grope their genitalia because they are impressed by his status as a star which is probably what he wants the public to believe; the other and more rational explanation is that even if they didn't actually consent they were too intimidated by his status to object and a third interpretation similar to the second is that they are too intimidated by his status to formally register a complaint with law enforcement and if you don't think that could be reasonable explanation ask yourself why Harvey Weinstein and Bill Cosby were able to get away with sexual battery for decades,
Should have mentioned it earlier in this thread. Do you expect Tara Reade to return to the US from Russia and sue Biden like E. Jean Carroll sued Trump? After all Biden's denial is a direct attack her credibility. I don't know if the statute of limitations has run or not but she thought that Biden was defaming her she should have sued him. Just asking and by the way if you think that she is credible you may want to click on this link. What 74 former Biden staffers think about Tara Reade's allegations
I could care less about Trump. I care about the process, and not much else as it relates to Trump. I have never voted for Trump because as I have aged, I decided I would not compromise on my strong Libertarian beliefs, and does not check enough boxes, so my vote hasn’t counted since Bush II (not my primary vote, but Al Gore? Not in my lifetime). I supported many of Trump’s decisions, but not all. I stand by my comments on Trump. He did not say those things he is accused of saying. Personally, I don’t like Trump’s comments about others who oppose him. The nicknames are stupid. I think that is weak minded. But I do believe he loves this Country, but he has been damned because of his ego. I don’t think he wins the primary. I think it will be Desantis/Scott. I don’t think our government does anything well. I will vote for any person who runs with a viable plan to cut our government employees by 50%. Our Govt is too bloated and too unaccountable. I love the USA, but I fear it’s on oxygen.
I wouldn’t support Tara’s claim any more than I support NY liberal woman’s claim. 30 years is beyond ridiculous. I am consistent. I raised it because I have a high degree of confidence that a Wyoming jury would return a verdict against Joe in a few hours. Now…if you/Joe want to victim shame Tara by character assassination, I would have an issue with that too. Did you, or did you not join the “all women should be believed” movement 4 years ago?
I hope I don’t get in trouble for this, but I’ve been grabbing women by the p since I was in high school. Is that really what we’re talking about here? I don’t think so. What we’re talking about is consent. When you read Trump’s entire statement, and put it in context, I think your inference is rational, but I also think it’s rational that he’s emphasizing more the lack of morals of women around famous people. In other words, he’s kind of calling out golddiggers. Those women exist, and I’m sure all of us here could name one or two that we’ve known personally. We certainly can identify them as spouses to the rich and famous. So, as I said, I don’t have a problem with anyone drawing inferences, and saying you believe Trump is an asshole because he says these things, but I think it’s ridiculous to try to state as fact that Trump raped women, and use this statement as evidence of such. That is just stupid. I think Trump is an asshole for saying these things, but I don’t think he assaulted any women based upon this comment. On this note, it appears that most of the members of this group are men. Assume for a moment you are rich and famous like Trump. Assume you are a billionaire and models and beautiful actresses are throwing themselves onto you because they want to be taken care of. They are attracted to wealth. Would you say no? Maybe I’m a scumbag, but if I’m not married, and I have beautiful women wanting to use me for sex, I’m happy to be their boy toy.
I don't know whether you're a troll or you actually believe what you've been posting and while I'm sure that a number of women probably did consent to Trump's grabbing them by the p or for that matter other forms of sexual contact. That being said over 20 women have accused the Orange One of unwanted sexual contact and it's not unreasonable to assume that a majority of their claims are valid. List of Trump's accusers and their allegations of sexual misconduct And let's not forget this. While not involving any physical contact the Donald's behavior was inappropriate by any standard. Former Miss Arizona says Donald Trump used to 'stroll in' to see naked women in dressing room Donald Trump used to “stroll right in” to the dressing room of beauty pageants while the contestants - some of whom were teenagers - were naked or half-dressed, a former model has claimed. Tasha Dixon was 18 when she competed in the Miss USA pageant, winning the state crown. “Our first introduction to him was when we were at the dress rehearsal and half naked changing into our bikinis,” Ms Dixon told CBS. Former teen beauty queens: Trump barged in on us changing
uhmmm, that’s not how our Justice system works. Quantity does equal quality. Let’s use Stormy Daniels (not her real name) as an example. She alleges Trump had sex with her, then tries to blackmail him. (Red flag #1) For reasons unknown (either Trump hid the pickle with her or paid as a part of doing business) Trump paid her…for sex..after the fact. That still makes her a whore by definition, I think (isn’t a whore a woman who has sex for money?) (Red flag #2). Despite being paid for having sex and signing a gag agreement (gag meaning not to disclose…get your mind out of the gutter), that wasn’t enough for Stormy. She wanted to break the deal she was paid for and write a tell all. (Red flag #3). Do you think she has any credibility? I say no. What won’t she do for money? How many women accused Trump of sexual misconduct while he was best buds with the Clintons? I don’t know, but I’m guessing zero. It’s amazing how politics flush out all the cockroaches.
So you're saying that unless Trump was sued civilly and/or charged criminally the events never happened and the allegations should be ignored? Got it.
I say yes. Trump had nothing but bad things to say about Stormy Daniels, like calling her "horse face," till she retaliated by referring to him as "Tiny." That shut him up and as far as I know he hasn't said a word about her since. Why do you suppose that is? Reminds of the woman (whose name I forget) who claimed that Slick Willie exposed himself to her. As evidence she said that his penis had "an unusual characteristic." I wish there had been a trial so that item could have presented in the courtroom as evidence.
Did you note his bearing when he was making his famous "grabbing," comment? I saw an excited child announcing it was Christmas morning. Like, disbelief in his great fortune to be a member of the echelon where such behavior is allowed, even encouraged. I detected not a jot of condemnation, or distaste. And why on Earth should he speak disparagingly of other's morals? Lack of morals, indeed.
