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Once a great school, New College had fallen to 405th in the nation

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by studegator, Jun 22, 2023.

  1. gator_lawyer

    gator_lawyer VIP Member

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    Sounds like you didn't have much of a college experience if it didn't shape you as a person. I had very much the opposite experience. And it really wasn't even due to the courses. I see a lot of value in educating ourselves as people and in learning the skills college teaches. But the social aspects of college were transformative for me.
     
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  2. defensewinschampionships

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    To quote the Indigo Girls, “I spent four years prostrate to the higher minds, got my paper and I was free.” I have learned so much more on my own than when I was earning my piece of paper.
     
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  3. gator_lawyer

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    I would hope so. You spent fourish years earning that degree. You've had far more time to learn on your own.
     
  4. UFLawyer

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    I agree. I don’t remember many of the classes I took, but I remember drinking beer at the Rathskeller with friends and strangers, the Asher special at 2:00 a.m Saturday morning, $1.00 brews at the Football games, gorgeous co-eds. Tons of friends and laughs. Going to The Holiday inn to eat happy hour pizza because I ran out of money for the week. None of these are traditional course work, but all were educational.
     
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  5. littlebluelw

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    Give your man card up. Indigo Girls? Really?
     
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  6. latergatercg

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    If I had made it beyond looking at the gorgeous coeds then admittedly my experience would have been different.
     
  7. latergatercg

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    I enjoyed it at the time. In retrospect it feels wasteful. But that wasn't my point. I have no opinion on what someone else should take away from college.

    I just wonder if liberal arts degrees are the best way to prepare students for an increasingly competitive world. I don't know what the solution to that is.
     
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  8. tampajack1

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    Liberal arts, major, Andrew Bergman, preceded me by a few years at Binghamton University, but he wrote the screenplay for “Blazing Saddles.“ Just saying.
     
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    There are many extremely successful liberal arts majors. I think people confuse with and after. The concern isn't for the stars, it's for mediocre majority which included myself.
     
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  12. gator_lawyer

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    The solution is to let the students decide and the market sort it out.
     
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    I’m glad your son has been successful but the metrics remain what they have been. The hate some posters have for DeSantis makes it easy for people to overlook the fact that Florida lawmakers have been trying to have New College be held more accountable to both students and taxpayers for many years.
     
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  14. gator_lawyer

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    The love some posters have for DeSantis makes it easy for people to overlook the fact that installing a bunch of right-wing culture warriors at New College isn't about making it "more accountable" to the "students" or the "taxpayers." Particularly after they installed a DeSantis crony as university president at double the salary of his predecessor.
     
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    Needs to be mentioned again. This a cultural attack like most of DeSantis’s “policies”
     
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    LMFAO!
     
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    As we saw in a link above, U.S. News and World Report ranked New College at the end of the 2022 school year as the 5th best public liberal arts college in the country. So, if the bottom has dropped out of its ranking since then, the blame falls on DeSantis.
     
  19. stingbb

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    As you are, I’m surprised that anyone would pay big bucks to a new President being being that the extreme cost to the state per New College student is already far more than any other school in the state system.

    Instead of DeSantis trying to turn a school of under 1000 students into “Hillsdale South”, the state should have just let New College die of natural causes. That is a sentiment shared by many, including both Democrats and Republicans, in the Sarasota area.
     
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