I don’t consider a plane above taking pictures of open public spaces a police state. But to each his own.
“Public spaces” turn into private spaces very quickly by flight. Interesting Baltimore rejected it. A city run by Dems and mostly inhabited by Dems. I guess they love crime?
No this seems to be equal opportunity madness here. Maybe cops need to close their eyes now when in public so as not to see things they aren’t supposed to. People have the freedom to commit crimes. Cops can only pursue if criminals have been given a fair head start.
I think you’re getting things confused. The equivalent would be allowing the criminals, cartels to fly their own drones in the sky, without restriction. Nobody is arguing that police walking around with their eyes open is a violation of the 4th amendment. Well, maybe in San Francisco, lol…
This technology does not allow you to see a lot of details. Apparently only the people who have expertise with the images can decipher something like a car or a person which may be the size of a pixel. It isn’t like the government can see you nude sunbathing. If a traffic helicopter was flying around, is it not allowed to take pictures? Logically I just don’t see a problem with this particular application. I understand there may be a point of specific granularity where it could become problematic, but I’m not even sure of that. If there were concerns you could have an independent body regulate and monitor the use of the data, such that it isn’t abused.
HUNGARY! Orbán’s Orwellian law paves way for “information police state” in Hungary The Right's favorite autocrat. Viktor Orban.
No, no, no just no. They will absolutely be able to spy on people in their backyards and see the detail. No, I don't want to give the government the authority to do it and then trust the government to regulate itself. If you want it like China, just move to China. They use police drones over there like they are going out of style. Why do you want to emulate them? You could just move there and let us have our Bill of Rights.
286k what? Legal immigrants? Muslim immigrants? Give some context. Again less than 1 percent of many Scandinavian countries are Muslim. Do they have the influx of Hispanic migrants coming that we do? Do they have the mix of cultures/values/ethnicity that we do? Hell most of the scandi countries top out at 5-7 million. Less population than out biggest cities. You lost this argument and you know it. You say you want the US to be more like those countries? How very racist of you. You basically want the US to be more white, more homogeneous. So much for diversity being our strength.
Back to the topic Didn’t the FBI just get caught with 250k illegal digital queries of citizens? Have t we all had Siri/Alexa/ spy on us in our own home? NSA already listens in to private conversations, right… You can claim that this technology will not be used illegally or in a wrong manner but we have plenty of other examples that show if tech can be used to gain an advantage… illegal or not… it will be. This tech doesn’t stop crime it just helps solve it… unless you believe punishment is a true deterrent. ( it’s been argues on this board multiple times that punishment is not a deterrent) If punishment is a true deterrent let’s start by looking at strong/longer/harsher punishments to deter crimes without having our privacy encroached upon.
Nearly a Third of Gen Z Favors the Government Installing Surveillance Cameras in Homes https://www.cato.org/blog/nearly-th...ourths (75 percent,have an opinion either way. Crazy shit...
All this proves is that young people are impressionable, more easily gaslighted and less experienced in life. I'd imagine most Gen Z's can't even tell you what the 4th Amendment is, let alone why it was included in the Bill of Rights.
What do you expect from a generation that has openly displayed every facet of their lives on social media.
Personally, I think I have more concern about the government getting lots of data and information from Google and Apple, etc., than I am with cameras in public spaces where there's arguably no expectation of privacy. Cops have body cams. Private citizens film others in public and post videos all the time (sometimes with arguments about it). More businesses have cameras up. I assume I may be on video if I'm walking around downtown. A drone looking down into someone's fenced back yard, for example, feels different to me because I think people have a greater expectation of privacy there. I am willing to be persuaded depending upon the details.
It’s a good thing that older generations have similar percentages for far more reasonable things like stolen elections and government elite pedophelia conspiracies.
The pedophilia conspiracies aren’t conspiracies. Ask yourself why Ghislaine’s Rolodex hasn’t been released. A non-profit that deals in rehabilitating trafficked kids was warned by an official in the State department to quit advertising what they do. Ask me how I know.
