New Durham report criticizes the FBI for investigating Dear Leader…

Nothing new. It was exactly what would be expected from a Barr appointed 4 yr. investigation. No new charges, the two that came in the 4 years were acquitted, the FBI admitted to its' errors years ago and implemented corrections.
"This is it? This is the grand summary? It's Horowitz with some extra commentary," tweeted national security attorney Bradley Moss. "They've got nothing. No grand conspiracy. No effort to take down Trump. It's 'you messed up surveilling Page' and 'be more careful next time with political-affiliated sources.' What a flop."

Former federal prosecutor Renato Mariotti said that Durham's report is "full of 'observations' but does not present evidence of uncharged crimes, as Mueller did."

 

I don't know. You would have to ask them. I'm not even certain what corrective actions are referring to. I can surmise that it was some of the FISA application issues previously identified. FISA abuse is a real thing, long predating this investigation and present in this investigation to a far lesser extent than it is in most. But again, just consider the publicly known facts. Consider just two facts, among many candid publicly requested a foreign adversary to hack his opponent, which they already have been tried anew in response, and the fact that his own son welcomed explicitly labeled foreign assistance from the Russian government. None of those remotely disputed, and that doesn't even cover George Papadopoulos, Michael Flynn, and most of all Paul Manafort. There are plenty others as well. For meeting with Lavrov in the Oval Office to celebrate the sacking of the FBI chief and blowing Israeli asset undercover with ISIS. There are literally hundreds of facts that been checked overlook. He was and is plainly some form of Russian asset.

Parenthetically, and I appreciate I have no way of proving this, I suspected him before any of the stuff became public. AS stated on this board somewhere before, in the spring of 2016 (don't recall the date), he started talking about why does NATO still exist to contain an enemy that no longer exists, and why does it keep expanding.

I told many friends at the time that he sounded like Russian propaganda. Those are some pretty recognizable formulations, which anyone who regularly followed the issue should have instantly recognized. No one loyal to the West frames the arguments that way. I simply presumed it was because he had some connections through his first wife to that area. When I found out all the other connections, it was overwhelming

 

Because the Justice Department conducted an apolitical, thorough internal investigation and found significant investigative problems. Corrective solutions were then implemented. In essence, Durham’s quest, which began when hired by Trump/Barr in 2019, and continued in December 2020 when Barr appointed him “special counsel,” produced a giant nothing burger.

 

Yup. I had a friend who unwittingly (seemingly) worked at an outwardly reputable financial services firm that was running a ponzi scheme in the back room.

FBI busted them, then brought charges against my friend as part of a wide net and basically told him-we don't lose, so you can either plea and turn, or we're going to ruin your life. He'd been there for less than a year and the scam was a decade old.

So he pled, then was finishing a two year prison sentence when he ultimately died of undiagnosed cancer b/c prison health care was terrible, plus it was during covid.

Just a sad story.

 

Actually when a lot of that was going on leading up to the 2016 election he won. But they continued the harassment based on a phony narrative. So you are really ok with our Justice Dept taking part in something the know was false in order to try and take out a President? You think they should participate in disinformation campaigns against politicians they don't like while protecting one's they do like? Perjuring themselves over and over to get warrants to continue harassing a Presidential candidate and later sitting President?

 

Someone should put that sorry excuse of a law enforcement agency out of it's misery.

 

Manafort definitely colluded. The only question was whether he was doing it for his own interest because he was in debt. And of course he was both pardoned and they never unencrypted some of his hard drives. It's all in the report. It's why Mueller thought that he came up with a nice compromise by suggesting that Congress pursue obstruction of justice. He arguably had enough evidence to pursue a conspiracy charge, and to the extent that the evidence was in any way lacking, made it pretty clear that it was due to concerted attempt to obstruct justice.

But the basic outlines of the quid pro quo were pretty well known in the fall of 2016 and Trump tried to execute on all three of them, but was limited because Congress basically took over Russian policy, as he grumbled about to Lavrov, saying he thought he would have more freedom after sacking Comey. First, a modus vivendi in Syria, which he actually ultimately delivered on, though late, lifting of Magnitsky sanctions, which he tried to do; it was part of his spin on his son talking to Vesiltnaya (not looking up spelling), talking about adoptions reform (Putin cut off adoption in response to the Magnitsky sanctions), and formal recognition of the annexation of Crimea, which he floated publicly multiple times.

 

Yeah, the FBI throws out apologies all the time...

Holy crap the partisanship is strong with some on here.

 

And the right is the cult!!
The shine will never dull in your little utopia and good luck with that!

 

Big deal! The FBI has been corrupt for decades. What else is new? Just look at the job it did on JFK. Russians had nothing to do with it, just the midday public execution of a president. And who did all the "investigative" work for that joke called the Warren Commission? The good old FBI. Manipulating, destroying, or just ignoring evidence of a conspiracy. Well done!

 

Not according to Jake Tapper who is widely recognized as a huge Trump supporter!!

 

You actually believe this drivel you wrote?

You do realize that there are screenshots of this stuff.

 

"Special counsel John Durham’s final report reveals that four years, a $6.5 million spend, and many dining dates with former Attorney General Barr yielded nothing. As a prosecutor who served as a supervisor on an independent counsel investigation, I find Durham’s investigation to be a complete waste of taxpayer dollars.
Recall that Durham was handpicked by Barr to investigate the probe commenced by the FBI in 2016 into ties between the Trump campaign and Russia that formed the basis for the investigation by special counsel Robert Mueller. The Mueller probe yielded indictments of 34 individuals, two companies, and convictions of top Trump campaign officials."
And the Cons seem to always resort to a diversionary , rather than present any facts. But you be you.

 

I feel like one thing lost in some of the partisan arguments is that John McCain gave the dossier to the FBI. Maybe others did , too, but it wasn't a purely partisan concern.

 

Inspector general’s report on Russia probe: Key takeaways

Read the full DOJ inspector general's report on the FBI's Russia probe

 

True, but I think the Steele Dossier has been not only exaggerated in its catalytic role but also unfairly maligned. Chris Steele had been the head of the Russian desk for MI6 before he was PNGed by Moscow. Part of what he was fed preliminarily was no doubt intentional disinformation exactly the effect that it did he was not naïve; he likely knew some of it was disinformation. But large parts of it into were confirmed or certainly appear to be accurate.

What he was naïve about was the reception of this information what had previously been a staunch Cold War ally. Part of the reason he rushed over unvetted raw intel was because he assumed, wrongly, that US authorities would be as troubled as he was that an obvious foreign asset was a major party nominee and would work with him rather than against him. In that regard, he was naive.

Edited to add: Equally naive was Marco Rubio, the opposition candidate that is widely rumored and believed to be the intra-party rival that originally hired Orbis to obtain the hard information on the Russia Trump connection. He too naïvely believed that voters would care that a major party candidate was sympathetic to and influenced by someone who hated the United States and personally made a PR appearance at a War Game in which the United States was subject to nuclear annihilation. Rubio didn't realize the party had changed, and that ethnic solidarity was more important than loyalty to the nation.

 

A lot of people on this board care that people like you come on here spew misinformation. Multiple people from Trump's campaign, including his campaign manager, met with Russian assets. His son tried to meet with the Russians to get information on Hillary. This is all well documented. The idea that this was "made up" is fiction from uninformed or dishonest folks.

 

I didn't know the NYT's and Wash Post got Pulitzer's for this garbage. Let's see if they return them LOL.

'Politically motivated crap': Republicans call Durham findings 'damning' while Dems downplay report | Daily Mail Online

 

Here is another article on that same subject...

Ex-DOJ Official and Wife Had Bigger Roles in Dossier Than Known: Durham Report

While it’s bad enough the debunked dossier the FBI used to spy on the Trump campaign was paid for by the Clinton campaign and authored by a foreign FBI informant and his carousing researcher, the newly released report of Special Counsel John Durham strongly suggests a top Justice Department official and his wife had an early hand in shaping the political rumor sheet.

According to the 306-page report, former Justice Department prosecutor Bruce Ohr’s wife Nellie Ohr first plowed the ground for the dossier with a series of a research reports she wrote for Fusion GPS, the D.C.-based opposition research firm the Clinton campaign commissioned to dig up dirt on Trump and Russia.

Obtained by Durham, her reports zeroed in on Sergei Millian and his connections to Russia and Trump, falsely portraying him as a key intermediary between the Kremlin and the Republican candidate. They would later provide the foundation for the dossier’s many fictions.


https://www.realclearinvestigations..._dossier_than_known_durham_report_899718.html