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War in Ukraine

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by PITBOSS, Jan 21, 2022.

  1. chemgator

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    Russian currency hits a 10-month low as war costs rise and energy revenues sink.

    Russia's ruble has crashed 20% as Ukraine war costs pile up and energy revenue sinks

     
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  2. Sohogator

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    I hope you’re right, but I’m not seeing any evidence of Russia reaching its nadir. We should be prepared for things to get worse for Ukraine.
     
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  5. duggers_dad

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    More likely G20 leaders see the writing on the wall. Ukraine on life support and NATO resolve fraying.
     
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    This post shows a fundamental misunderstanding of regime change, but it’s not surprising. In democracies, regimes don’t change. We have this thing called elections. People vote for their candidate and the winning candidate serves for a limited period of time.

    In your authoritarian choice of world order, regime change comes differently, usually through death of one sort of the other.
     
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  7. duggers_dad

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    In Donetsk, Lugansk, Kherson and Zaporozhye people had something like elections. Problem is the results are being rejected by crazy MAGA-type election deniers like yourself.
     
  8. duggers_dad

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    Just a reminder that the truth eventually gets out

     
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    Diversity hire Defense Minister of Belgium does NATO dance ...

     
  10. VAg8r1

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    Obviously not what you intended, the appropriate analogy is that between George W. Bush and Vladimir Putin. In both cases they decided to launch a war of choice based on a false narrative.
     
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  11. duggers_dad

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    What was Putin’s false narrative ?
     
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    You have beautifully placed The Russian active measures into context— particularly the plans and people in place prior to and including Brexit, the election in 2016 here and various elections in Europe.
     
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  13. duggers_dad

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    "China and Russia refused to sign the G20 resolution demanding the withdrawal of Russian troops from the territory of Ukraine , - Deutsche Welle.

    The rest of the G20 participants supported the summit's final statement calling for a "complete and unconditional withdrawal" of Russian troops."

    Interesting in that China is now more fully onside with Russia openly.

    Can we fight two wars ?
     
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    Which, if I understand correctly, wad
    I heard a radio interview just now that advised the meeting was hardly about Russia suing for peace and more that Blinken aired U.S. grievance's, while Russia's ambassador parroted the regular Kremlin propoganda, and it all led up to a big nothing burger.

    Regrettably I can't post the source.

    I hope your post is correct but I sincerely doubt it.

    Regarding the battlefront the struggle for Bakhmut has become an epic confrontation. A modern day Stalingrad albeit at a smaller level. One thing seems to be certain, Russia is slowly closing the vice, and thats direct from Ukranian sources.

    I worry that Bakhmut, while not worth a damn strategically, now has great meaning psychologically to the war effort on both sides.

    I just hope that the Ukranians continue to make Russian ground forces pay a heavy price in blood while falling back, when necessary, to more defensive positions that make the Russian military misarable.

    What I hope DOES NOT happen is Ukraine throws men and material into the breech, they get cut off and have to surrender.

    That would be bad news for most posters here.
     
  16. duggers_dad

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    A Bakhmut encirclement/collapse would be bad news for Ukrainian troops. But why would most posters on this thread care ? To the last Ukrainian and all that ?
     
  17. Sohogator

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    Pretty face and smile and obviously a confident woman. I’d dance to if I was part of NATO’s and Ukraine abjec
    ya got to work with me here, I’m hunting Wabbitts:rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
  18. Gatorhead

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    Told U I could not spell.
     
  19. chemgator

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    I don't think his mom stocks the basement with vodka.
     
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  20. duggers_dad

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    Not surprisingly, the Moscow Mule is my go-to mixed drink.