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  1. ETGator

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  2. klgator

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    Remember at the beginning of the recruiting stage a 5-star turned down an offer from tOSU for one from Georgia, because Georgia offered $800K a year vs. $500K from tOSU? Somehow that became public.
     
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    Make sure to include bowl games in any NIL payments. No opting out.
     
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  5. 96Gatorcise

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    That would be an incentive or bonus included in the NIL contract. No agent would agree that an NIL package is entirely contingent on 1 game after the season is over.
    More likely an extra X amount of dollars if you wear your sponsorship t-shirt on the field during a bowl game or pre/post game interview.
     
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  6. Montanagator

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    I understand why UF should be separated from NIL offers. They can offer schollys and telling players they would be seen on TV every weekend and have access to an up scale training facility. If they make an offer to a player and the player decides to sign a LOI, does the player get contact from a group of Gator supporters or is there a totally different commercial driven group involved in throwing money at the kid? What is the $ offered decided upon? The # of stars, team needs or offering the dad a coaching job? Maybe a player gets multiple offers and then gets money thrown at him like an auction. This won't get fixed by the NCAA just like they haven't done anything with their investigation of TN.
     
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    Mentioned in the link and probably also in the now closed Jaden Rashada thread (conceding that I haven't read every post in the thread) I suspect that the only reason that Rashada flipped his commitment from Miami to Florida was the NIL deal. Although recruits almost certainly received financial inducements under the table when the practice was prohibited with NIL recruiting has really devolved into nothing more than a bidding war with the school with wealthiest boosters having the ability to outbid their competitors. While the practice isn't new it's now magnitudes greater.
     
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  8. atlantagator86

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    I think they should be performance based instead of payment for signing with a team.
     
  9. 96Gatorcise

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    That wouldn't be an NIL deal then. That would be an employment contract.
     
  10. Crusher

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    Of course the current NIL deals aren't NIL deals either, just legalized bag payments.
     
  11. Gatorhead

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    NCAA think tank 2019 - How do we stop all the cheating in College Football?

    The table - WE DONT, we create rules that alow EVERYONE to cheat, without consequences, at everything and then set no rules. It will be fun to watch the sharks feed!
     
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    The NCAA stuck its collective head in the sand, ignored what was coming and allowed it to get totally out of control. But Florida didn't adapt and organize to take advantage of the mess like other big time programs did and are now playing catch up. Our AD has to take primary responsibility, IMO.
     
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    They could make them do jumping jacks I guess. That’s just an inconvenience really.
     
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    And the AD before him. A system of boosters working together under an umbrella is probably not something that happens overnight. The AD only does what the school allows or wants him to do.
     
  16. HisDoc

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    Actually NONE of the NIL deal can be contingent on anything related to their playing football.
     
  17. Wanne15

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    Except it is. Funny how that works isn’t it. Lawyers.
     
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  18. northgagator

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    Please elaborate on how Florida stuck its collective head in the sand?

    Before you do that read the following:

    Per the NCAA rules the member colleges cannot be in direct pay for play deal with the players. The only thing the colleges can offer is a full ride scholarship and other benefits that all the students are entitled to.

    Per the State of Florida law, the state colleges can not offer direct compensation to student athletes. Nor does it allow colleges and universities to steer endorsement deals and other compensation opportunities toward or away from student-athletes. The prior sentence basically takes the conversation of NIL's off the table when recruiting, signing, and while attending the university.

    Basically the NIL's for the member schools of the NCAA cannot be directly and indirectly be associated with the member schools. This is where things can get muddy. It is permissible for a booster to be a member of a NIL agency. However, the NIL agency cannot be tied to a member school in any way. At this time a noted Miami booster, by the name of John Ruiz and the University of Miami are subjects of a NCAA investigation. However, that investigation is now stalled due to "improper conduct within its enforcement program that occurred during the University of Miami investigation."

    link Miami Hurricanes: NCAA Admits Its Own Improper Conduct in Investigating School



    Link: Florida S0646 | 2020 | Regular Session
     
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  20. 62gator

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    Two things here. The $$$ is actually much less than many make it out to be. These are one year deals, no way can you make them longer because you just don’t know what you’re gonna get out of the players. This is why everything collapsed on that monster class aTm brought in. They all got one year $$$ and bolted because it dried up on them.

     
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