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10 year old rape victim can't get abortion in Ohio

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by channingcrowderhungry, Jul 2, 2022.

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  1. gatorchamps960608

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    That's easy. We want our kids to have the freedom to safely attend school or a parade without being blown to bits by military weapons. To do that, we want to control those guns.
     
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  2. wgbgator

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    The people that support it literally call it 'gun control' man!
     
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  3. wgbgator

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    What the? Abortion will result in more unwanted children? What? Get some more sleep, you're delirious.
     
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  4. Gator715

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    And I want fetuses to have the freedom to not get killed because they're inconvenient to their mother. To do that, we want to restrict abortion.
     
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    "Inconvenient to the mother". Because there aren't any COUPLES making that decision? Because there aren't any married men, particularly those in power, getting their side pieces abortions so they don't get caught. Because it's Inconvenient to not want to die. It's Inconvenient to worry about being beaten or killed for "getting" pregnant.

    The number one killer of pregnant women is Homicide.

    When someone says women get abortions because of "Inconvenience" versus all the other reasons out there it smacks of, what else, judgement and belittling. Which is why people will keep getting fired up.

    It has nothing to do with the fetus or God or love or anything else. And everything to do with judgement, control, hatred, and vanity.

    You and those who think like you will only blame & not work. Then blame "the other side" for not wanting to compromise.

    Off to puke my guts out. I need to stop posting because some of you....I don't wish ill on anyone but you're not going to see sense or compromise or "the other side" until you or someone you deeply care about is in that position.
     
  6. Gator715

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    U.S. Abortion Statistics

    Percentage Reason
    <0.5% Victim of rape
    3% Fetal health problems
    4% Physical health problems
    4% Would interfere with education or career
    7% Not mature enough to raise a child
    8% Don't want to be a single mother
    19% Done having children
    23% Can't afford a baby
    25% Not ready for a child
    6% Other

    That's at least 86% of abortions occurring because having a baby would be inconvenient, and that is assuming the entire "other" 6% involve reasons that exceed mere inconvenience, in other words, I'm being generous.
     
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    And I addressed the elective reasons by my list. Then reminded you that rape & medical needed exceptions and you got upset.

    Btw the vasectomy part? Forgot - women of color, Native women, Hispanic women....decades of having forced sterilization (jails, ICE, etc). At least vasectomies are reversible.

    You expect rape victims btw to put their faith in a system that gave men like that swimmer a reduced sentence for rape because his dad wrote that his son's life shouldn't be ruined over "20 minutes of fun"? Forget his name but he was raping an unconscious woman behind a dumpster and only got busted when spotted.

    Had she gotten pregnant from that, what then? How would she prove rape? So gray area again, and more garbage about convenience.

    I'm out. There's no interest in common sense, fairness, consequences or compromise. Not necessarily you as you said you agreed with some items, but just in general on here.

    Put it in perspective. If I lived in Texas or another ban state, the bulks of my meds would be illegal and I'd be dead in a few months. I DONT EVEN HAVE A UTERUS. But I'm in the age range.

    Because THAT makes sense. But hey, you saved a cluster of cells with individual DNA that beats and grows. You know what else has that characteristic? Cancer cells. Waiting on someone to claim teratomas can't be removed because they have hair or teeth (it's a type of tumor).

    I cant reason with a side that thinks that ectopic pregnancies are reimplantable in the uterus.
     
  8. Gator715

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    I didn't get upset, I just called you out because you used the exception to define the rule, and you're doing it again here.

    The typical abortion case is based on convenience, not rape or life of the mother. I pointed that out and YOU got upset.

    As to whether women should put faith in the American system. Find me a better one. Anybody can cherry pick cases where people who did terrible things get off. Rape cases are tough. There is rarely damning evidence proving consent or lack thereof one way or another. Nobody deserves to get raped and there should be more serious sentencing for rape cases. But America is not an oppressive country towards women. It just isn't. This may be the best place to be a woman in human history.

    Your answer to forced sterilization, which you yourself think is a horrible atrocity (and I agree) is to have forced sterilization for men because women had to go through it.
     
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  10. tjenkins78

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    I bet you also think there is no systemic racism either...right?
     
  11. DoubleDown11

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    These are not mutually exclusive statements.
     
  12. LTG61

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    Short answer: no.

    Longer answer: Snopes has an article today that they can't find anything to veryify it, and that the "source" won't return anybody's calls.
     
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  14. dynogator

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    And their father, let's not forget the father. The men who insist they're not ready to be a father, who withhold financial and emotional support, that take to their heels when confronted with a + on a stick. The men who insist on abortions to hide their affairs from their wives, careers, and church. Daddy's dirty little secrets.

    So please, expand your condemnation of mothers and convenience to include your own culpable sex, the fathers.
     
  15. Gator515151

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    Well we did have 14 too hot pages on what may be a CNN fake news story.
     
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  16. Gator715

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    Noted. "I want fetuses to have the freedom to not get killed because they're inconvenient to their mother and/or father."
     
  17. dynogator

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    Better. You'd be surprised how much I agree with you.

    I'm profoundly against abortion restrictions that pose a threat to a woman's health/life, and lack of exemptions for rape and incest.
     
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    While I have little doubt that those numbers are accurate, keep in mind that 92.7% of all abortions are performed prior to the 13th week of pregnancy and less than one percent are performed after the 20th week.
    CDCs Abortion Surveillance System FAQs | CDC
    Two factors to keep in mind. First, contraceptives are not fool proof, failure happen and secondly the most effective method for reducing unwanted pregnancies is through easy access to contraceptives and comprehensive sex education, both of which are opposed by a significant segment of the proflife community, a very large percentage of whom have a puritanical view of sex and believe that sexual relations should be limited to marriage and even then only for procreation.

    As I mentioned in previous posts, I have no problem with restrictions on abortion later pregnancy even as early as the 15th week provided that there is a strong exception for medical necessity (life or health of the mother and/or serious fetal abnormalities) including qualified immunity for doctors who perform the procedure. If the state alleges that an abortion performed after the cutoff period is not based on medical necessity the burden should be on the state not the physician to prove that was there was not a legitimate medical reason to perform the procedure.
     
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    Should be locked and deleted. completely fabricated and the OP took it hook, line and sinker.
     
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  20. channingcrowderhungry

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    It was reported by every major media outlet in the country. Including Fox. Its not like I found the story on some fringe webpage called www.USAfreedomfighterpatriotblog.com. So me biting it hook like and sinker doesn't mean shit to me. Carry on.
     
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