Roe v Wade Overturned

I didn't.

 

I'm just giving others actual quotes for them to weigh against your cavalier generalization.

 

I don't see enunciation of a right as a mandate, but as removing one - thou shall not abort - and allowing a choice. A woman ought not be denied the right to make a choice, but SCOTUS has said each state may make the choice for the woman. Regardless of my personal point of view on abortion, that's simply wrong.

That is the crux of the matter IMHO.

 

You have no clue who I am buddy.
Let’s not start shit here and get personal. You’re confused about honesty and classroom discourse. You guess which one you’re in to.
You’re high horse status disqualifies you from even entering the debate.

 

The only generalization here is “they lied to Manchin.”

Find anywhere in those quotes where any of them say it can’t be overruled. They didn’t.

 

Really? The dems of the midwestern states could have changed the outcome. Come on.

 

His points are accurate, but again, in the technical sense. My wife is an attorney, and she does this same crap sometimes (luckily for me, very rarely). Law school beats it into them (what's not innately in many law students' core personalities) to fixate on technical correctness over practical observation.

 

Why not?

 

Well if you’re pro-choice and anti trump you should be scared of the whack jobs on the right, not the left. But I absolutely agree with you we need moderates. I just find the fear of lefty extremists to be misguided. Two dudes/chicks are gonna get married or you might have to bake a gay cake is about the extent of their infringement upon your rights. The passage of Obamacare is the only major legislation that could be considered even close to “socialism” and that was 13 years ago.

 

Why?

 

And the Republicans in TX and FL could have changed the outcome. But they voted for trump.

Do you know how elections work?

 

You're right. At worst, they were disingenuous. Anyone with half a brain should have known they had their fingers crossed behind their back. They were nominated by a creature of the religious right, and Comey-Barret's inclinations were clear from her history. How is anyone surprised at this outcome?

 

Today’s SCOTUS decision is a remarkable victory for sepsis!

 

It would have been a decision that left Roe on life support, rather than completely overturned.

But perhaps it is a good thing to rip the band-aid off. For a long while, Roberts has worked to maintain the fig leaf of the legitimacy for the Court while still advancing his political ends.

And to some extent, it worked. Some, perhaps overly naive people thought there was some kernel of legitimate legal reason still underpinning the Court's decisionmaking. No longer. The mask is off, and the reality of what is occurring is plain for all to see. Few on the left care one whit what SCOTUS says any longer. It's only a matter of time before their decisions are relegated to the scraps of paper they're written on.

 

Pence wants to pass a national law outlawing abortion.

 

Roberts wouldn’t have overturned like this

 

Exactly. The minority rule will only last for so long. The demographics are changing quickly. The minority can only hold power over the majority for so long. And half of all people are women. Also telling people your intentions are to overturn contraceptive protections, gay rights, et all is a bridge too far for other people that don't care about abortion rights.
They have to do this now because of these reasons. There is no future with a Repub majority, none. The disparity of a couple million votes will only increase as time goes on. They know this hence all the trying to limit votes and pushing to overturn rights as fast as possible.
Everything will be switched back by Dems in time. Elections have consequences and the future elections certainly will undo this damage.

 

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Since they didn't explain much about the trigger law, I did not realize it would take away the 15 week law on the books, so I agree I was wrong on that. I had already stated I thought banning all abortions was an extreme position and still do, so it is now up to the citizens in each state to vote their conscience in future elections to change it. I believe Florida will vote the 15 week law into place, and I think it is a good law even if you don't. I also believe that people of good conscience will realize that taking the extreme position is wrong on any issue, but I am probably being naive in believing it.

 

Florida already did vote in the 15 week limit during the last session.

 

Is this a bad thing?