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NYT gets serious about Tucker Carlson

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by rivergator, May 1, 2022.

  1. rivergator

    rivergator Too Hot Mod Moderator VIP Member

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    I don't think they approached this with the idea that Carlson is competition.
     
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  2. CaptUSMCNole

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    He is liberals biggest boogeyman in the Dark Forrest for them that is Fox News which is owned by the same person that owns the New York Post and WSJ and you don’t think the NYTimes views him as competition?
     
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  3. altalias

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    A dem strategist was quoted as saying their only chance is to "scare the crap out of them". The NYT is a good boy and did as instructed. The last time I checked Tucker reaches 1 1/2% of the population. He is not important. The problem with this strategy is 99% of the Tmes readers already hate Tucker and Fox. I can't believe it will move the needle.
     
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  4. rivergator

    rivergator Too Hot Mod Moderator VIP Member

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    I doubt anyone in the New York Times newsroom thought that doing this story would convince any of Carlson's viewers to quit watching him and subscribe to the paper. In fact, they probably realize his ratings might go up temporarily as non-viewers tune him in just to see how far out he is.

    The paper did the story because he's newsworthy. Not only is he constantly saying some pretty radical stuff that used to be limited to weird radio station operating of someone's shed, but he's jumped to the top of the ratings doing it.
     
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  5. gator95

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    I have never watch his show and don’t plan to. My question is why dedicate so much time an resources to this person yet has the times spent almost zero time investigating Hunter and laptop and/or questionable dealings?
     
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  6. VAg8r1

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    Yes, Hunter Biden Derangement Syndrome is real. I think all of us would agree that Hunter is poor excuse for a human being who tried to monetize his familial relationship by creating the illusion that he could influence his father. So far there has been absolutely no evidence that he has done so. Tucker Carlson on the other hand has millions of followers who actually believe what he says. Besides once the Republicans regain control of the House you will have more the enough hearings on Hunter and his laptop to provide you with many hours of entertainment.
     
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  7. CaptUSMCNole

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    An alternative view is that Tucker is the face of the Murdoch Media Empire right now and the NYTimes is trying to turn Carlson into a radioactive personality that can be used against others on the Right and against the Murdock owned media outlets as well. The NYTimes will not increase their readership but they will try and PNG Carlson from the conversation.
     
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  8. rivergator

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    Either that or they thought it was an interesting and important story.
     
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  9. CaptUSMCNole

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    Two things can be true at the same time.
     
  10. slightlyskeptic

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    Wow. The Tucker Pucker is real with the libs. Mention his name and liberals tighten up like a vice. I'm not skeerd of the crap said every night on MSNBC or CNN. I trust Americans to see through their abundance of propaganda and decide for themselves what the real truth is. The way liberals and the liberal media shudder at the name Tucker Carlson and continue to try and shut him up only makes people want to listen to him more. Keep it up.

    The liberals own 98% of all media sources but they spend an inordinate amount of time wailing and whining about the other 2% that they don't. Just look at the reaction of liberals at the thought of Twitter daring to allow free speech. The horror....the horror! Grow a pair, for cryin' out loud.
     
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  11. rivergator

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    So to at least some of you, the problem isn't the kind of stuff that Carlson says - with his heavy focus on race - it's that the New York Times dared to write about what he says.
    Because that should be off-limits to ... a newspaper?
     
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    No there isn't lol. This narrative is so ignorant and embarrassing
     
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  13. slightlyskeptic

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    You ever once posted anything about Joy Reid and her heavy focus on race? NYT write anything about her yet that isn't glowing? o_O
     
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  14. dadx4

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    Feminism, "wokeness"...the left, liberals etc.. I am really surprised that you are asking this.
     
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    Tucker Carlson has 'perfect response' to N.Y. Times' brand-new hit piece (wnd.com)

    Tucker Carlson is openly laughing at the latest hit piece on him by the New York Times, which claims the popular Fox News host is stoking "white fear" and that his program is perhaps "the most racist program in the history of cable news."
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    On his program last week, Carlson said of the reporters at the Times, "They're suck-ups, brown-nosers, lickspittles, not people you'd want to have dinner with."
    Regarding race, Carlson said he does not have an "exotic" view.

    "We believe Martin Luther King," he said.

    "We don't think your skin color is the most important thing about you. We think all people were created by God and should therefore be judged by what they do, not by how they look."

    "Why do they keep calling us racist? Well, to make us shut up, obviously. They tried the same thing with Trump for years. They're doing out right now to Elon Musk, of course. If you don't obey them, they denounce you as a racist. Why do they do this? They do it 'cause it works. But here's the thing. It can only work if you play along with it, and we don't plan to."
     
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  16. gator_lawyer

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    White Power Carlson knows about as much about Martin Luther King as I know about electrical engineering. That answer is basically nothing. Carlson is exactly the sort of "white man" King stridently criticized in his final years.
    A New Sense of Direction (1968) | Carnegie Council for Ethics in International Affairs
    A million words will be written and spoken to dissect the ghetto outbreaks. But for a perceptive and vivid expression of culpability I would like to submit two sentences that many of you have probably heard me quote before from the pen of Victor Hugo. "If the soul is left in darkness, sins will be committed. The guilty one is not he who commits the sin but he who causes the darkness." The policy-makers of the white society have caused the darkness. It was they who created the frustrating slums. They perpetuate unemployment and poverty and oppression. Perhaps it is incontestable and deplorable that Negroes have committed crimes, but these are essentially derivative crimes. They are born of the greater crimes of the white society.

    When asking Negroes to abide by the law let us also declare that the white man does not abide by the law. Day in and day out he violates welfare laws to deprive the poor of their meager allotments. He flagrantly violates building codes and housing regulations. His police forces are the ultimate mockery of law. He violates laws on equal employment and education. The slums are the handiwork of a vicious system of the white society. Negroes live in them, but they do not make them any more than a prisoner makes a prison. And so let us say forthrightly that, if the total slum violations of law by the white man over the years are calculated and compared with the lawbreaking of a few days of riots, the hardened criminal would handily be the white man. In using the term white man I am seeking to describe in general terms the Negro's adversary. I seek not to categorize all white people by any use of the term white man. I think it is very important to say this, for there are millions who have risen morally above prevailing prejudices. They are willing to share power and to accept structural alterations of society, even at the cost of traditional privilege. To deny their existence as some ultra-nationalists do is to deny an evident truth. More than that, it tends to drive away allies who can and have strengthened our struggle. Their support serves not only to enhance our power, but their break from the attitudes of the larger society splits and weakens our opposition. To develop a sense of black consciousness and peoplehood does not require that we scorn the white race as a whole. It is not the race per se that we fight but the policies and ideology formulated by leaders of that race to perpetuate oppression.
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    White Power Carlson is a "white man" intent on perpetuating oppression. Much of his shtick is about fighting for the opposite of what MLK is advocating for here. Carlson has no interest in sharing power with people of color or in accepting the structural alterations of society at the cost of his privilege. That is why he pushes white supremacist talking points, like replacement theory. It is profoundly sad that so many white "conservatives" lap that bile up.
    A former leader of the KKK celebrated Tucker Carlson 'finally' sharing the white-supremacist 'great replacement' conspiracy theory
     
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  17. Trickster

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    That comment - “You do not see it because you hold the "correct" views” - was indeed revealing. Your response was right on. (I no longer engage with him.)
     
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    I think we are seeing more immediate pushback from the Righties on this thread, than with a Trump post, which is telling.

    I read some of the first article separately, and was curious if he ever has his audience look at themselves, or is it always the “other”?

    The irony of his shtick is that he wouldn’t befriend his own audience.

    All 24/7 “news” entertainment channels are bad for your health, and bad for America.
     
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    Tucker had better watch his ass...

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  20. rivergator

    rivergator Too Hot Mod Moderator VIP Member

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    None of those are answers.
    Exactly how are you under attack by feminism? Or any of what you listed?
     
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