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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. dangolegators

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    No you wouldn't. You'd just make some more shit up.
     
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  2. G8trGr8t

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  3. dingyibvs

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    What do you mean by "stop" then? As in driving the case count to flatline at near zero? No, it most certainly won't do that, not by itself anyway. I don't recall the exact numbers, but I think the CDC expects about 250k additional deaths by the Spring, and about 60k less if people wear masks nation-wide. My takeaway from that is that the CDC expects a reduction of about 20 to 25% with better mask usage.

    In other words, if you look at a plot of a region that has really widespread mask usage, it'll take on a similar shape as a region that doesn't (i.e. with similar timings for peaks and valleys), except it should peak at a 20-25% smaller number.

    Pretty simple, right? Isn't it amazing that the current president can't get something that even you and I can easily get?
     
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  4. dingyibvs

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    To be fair, there's really no reasonable way to conduct a gold-standard study (i.e. placebo-controlled, double-blinded RCT) on masks. It's prohibitively costly and ethically questionable to make placebo masks to enable double blinding and I doubt it'll ever be done.
     
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  5. 96Gatorcise

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    New high, Dec 8th 2960 new deaths.
     
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  8. NavyGator93

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    Exactly. Trump hasn't attended a Corona task force meeting in months, this is just theatre and a chance for him to rant about the "stolen election".
    I am sure these two companies have found some adults to deal with in the current and upcoming admin.
     
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  9. rivergator

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  10. jmoliver

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    Everyone believes in science as long as it matches their political party. pretty sad.
     
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  11. leftcoastgator

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    So much winning. So much incompetence.
    [​IMG]
     
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  12. philnotfil

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    And yesterday (2960 deaths) bumps Pearl Harbor out of the top 8.
     
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  13. 96Gatorcise

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    Highest reported Daily New Deaths (Top 31 days)

    September 11th 2001 -2977
    1. December 8th - 2960
    2. December 3rd - 2926
    3. December 2nd - 2874
    4. April 21st - 2744
    5. December 4th - 2703
    6. April 15th - 2695
    7. December 1st -2667
    8. April 14th - 2633
    9. April 17th - 2601
    10. May 6th - 2582
    11. April 28th - 2541
    D-Day - 2500
    12. April 29th - 2459
    13. April 22nd - 2420
    14. April 23rd - 2413
    14. May 5th - 2413
    Pearl Harbor - 2403
    16. November 25th - 2332
    17. April 10th - 2283
    18. April 30th - 2280
    19. April 7th - 2278
    20. December 5th - 2266
    21. April 16th - 2255
    23. April 8th - 2212
    24. November 24th - 2210
    25. May 7th - 2177
    26. April 9th - 2151
    27. April 25th - 2114
    28. April 11th - 2070
    29. November 19th - 2067
    30. November 20th -1996
    31. April 24th - 1995
     
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  14. FutureGatorMom

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    Well, you'd be better than Trump in that regard. Shoot, you'd be better than Trump in many regards!
     
  15. philnotfil

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    Interesting, that got me digging a little more into the numbers. Galveston Hurricane was a multi-day event. If we include that we also have to include the Okeechobee hurricane (1928) with an estimated 4000 deaths, the San Ciriaco hurricane (1899) with an estimated 3800 deaths, and Hurricane Maria (2017) with an estimated 3000 deaths. And we can toss in the San Fransisco earthquake (1906) with an estimated 3000 deaths.

    If we include Antietam, there are also the battle of Gettysburg (7800 deaths) and the battle of Spotsylvania (4200 deaths). If we expand out to battles that took place outside the US, Elsenborn Ridge (5000 deaths), Saint-Mihiel (4500 deaths) and D-day (2500 deaths) would also be on the list.

    With the exception of D-day, these are all multi-day events, so I could see leaving them off if the Galveston hurricane wasn't at the top of the list. Replace the Galveston hurricane with D-day, and the top ten is still 8 days of covid (with Pearl Harbor and D-day not making the top ten). And five of the top ten being this month.

    Some crazy perspective on the price we are paying for our incompetence.
     
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  16. 96Gatorcise

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    Great information! I will make the changes for perspective. I will leave 9/11 because it was the most recent.
     
  17. G8trGr8t

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    science or math isn't political. it doesn't have alternative facts. it is what it is.
    hydroxy doesn't work
    indoor unmasked gatherings spread covid
    covid kills people
    US death rate per 100k is in the top 5 of all first world countries
    US has had more covid deaths than anybody in the world (Belgium, Spain, Italy, UK are all ahead of US in deaths per 100k)

    these facts are indisputable

    Mortality Analyses - Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center (jhu.edu)

    and Trump lost the election
    another fact that Trump cannot seem to acknowledge in his world
     
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  18. gator95

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    LOL, this is quite possibly the funniest thing I have seen on here in a while. Does anyone realize that north of 7,500 people die per day in the US? EVERY DAY! but we are to believe last thursday was the 4th deadliest day in US history? And some people on here believe this crap?
     
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  19. exiledgator

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    "Some people" recognize this relates to what is referred to as excess deaths. "Some people" don't
     
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  20. leftcoastgator

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    People who understand science and facts do.

    Also: math.

    People interested in pushing politically driven narratives in the face of a pandemic don’t and never will. Fortunately, few people fall for your disinformation any more.
     
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