Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Insane. Name calling?!? Please. Obama was called Obummer, Zero, and every name there was. Hilary too. The moderators changed the rules AFTER Trump was elected to no name calling and still the right can’t take it.

The Obama years were posts of made up stories. Conservatives are taken to task for what Donald Trump says and does. It’s no comparison.

 

I don't want to hijack the thread with this. I'm sending you a PM.

 

Another and more plausible "theory" is they have much better ways to spend their time.

 

I am surviving just fine.

 

Trump called Coronavirus a Democratic Hoax. He opened the door. And his handling of this is fairly in issue given that this is an election year. You will forgive us if we hold against him his labeling of a worldwide pandemic as a political hoax; his suggestions to Pence to not communicate with the governor of Michigan about aid needed there because she criticized the presidential response; his claim that the numbers were going to zero: his late response: the lack of development of tests so we can have testing and information. Trump bears the stain of history for this. As for the exodus, that was a year and a half ago. For the most part, A bunch of Seth Rich type conspiracy theorists who were insulting and broke rear here repeatedly. It was OK for them to rip Obama, but they ran because people don’t rally around Trump in times like this? Please spare us. They can enjoy their safe space on TOS. There are enough people here who defended all of Trump’s false claims and are now shifting to blame governors. All of a sudden this is a surprise? Trump ignored months of advance notice. He deserves criticism. As do the posters who parrot ever changing talking points which, now, contradict the early talking points. It is called accountability. And it isn’t an insult or personal. It is fair comment on the assertions Made by both.

 

Why are we developing this test so late? When did the study to develop the test start? December? January? When did Trump start directing this?

 

How the United States lost a month of testing

The Lost Month: How a Failure to Test Blinded the U.S. to Covid-19

 

Why coronavirus antibody testing in one Colorado town could provide a way forward

It looks like the FDA approved a testing protocol last week for antibodies which would help identify ways to help "cure" sick people. I haven't searched the web too deeply, but as I posted yesterday, this is relatively new, in the sense that the FDA approved it. I'm not a scientist or medical professional, so please excuse any ignorance on my part. Just trying to keep posting positive info...

 

Don't think it is late at all. Pretty amazing how quickly things get done when the pressure is on with approvals, trials etc. There are already over 80 ongoing human clinical trials working on a vaccine. Using the worlds most powerful supercomputer, Summit, researchers used the mapped COVID-19 protein structure data from teams at the University of Texas and NIH and they have already narrowed down the 7 most promising compounds that will potentially be the most effective in binding to the COVID-19 proteins to create a vaccine.

 

I'm confident they will quickly ramp up the antibody testing just like they did with the tests so as to have meaningful data to study. You are starting to see where they are beginning to test entire cities.
Also it would not surprise me if the infected is not at least 50X what has been confirmed. Will be interesting what comes out of the antibody testing.

 

I was referring to widespread detection tests. Not vaccine testing or antibody testing. Scientists have been working on the latter since this started to spread on China.

 

Agreed. And earlier too. That is what the Oxford scientists posit.

 

I keep seeing this narrative regurgitated, but I would like to know what previous pandemics the U.S. started testing for en masse when there were only 60 known cases here? My understanding is that generally speaking, mass testing doesn't really kick in until the problem spreads a little more than that. Does anybody have any examples of previous epidemics or pandemics where the U.S. started mass testing protocols when there were less than a 100 confirmed cases of something? This is a narrative people are dreaming up out of thin air, as if we would have normally reacted a lot quicker in the past. That's just not true.

 

I hope "they" do a better job with the serological tests than "they" did with the PCR tests. Mo info faster mo better.

 

The first known case of the 2009 H1N1 pandemic was identified April 15th. The first test was ready April 28th.

 

Did you read the story?

 

Just love how some know it alls think they know it all and know how or what others will or will not acknowledge. I think I have been very level-headed through out this thread.

There is no human on this planet who knows exactly how this plays out, from here, but the unhindered medical community will come up with something sooner than later.

 

LOL, did you read my post? So they had ONE test on April 28th? I said testing "en masse", which would indicate the widespread testing capability that so many of you on the left want everybody to think we should have had in place before this spread like wildfire.

 

It's a very long story that does absolutely zero to address the questions in my post. In fact, I would say many of the challenges the CDC faced was due to the fact that the virus was so new and there had been so little American exposure at the time. The problem with all this finger-pointing, as I have pointed out in other places, is that it ignores the fact that pretty much the entire industrialized world is having our same plight. You might have a point if we were one of only a handful of countries dealing with this. You guys are just so partisan that you can't admit that viral outbreaks like this would have presented any administration with a lot of challenges and it's highly doubtful another administration would have stopped the spread here when you consider the entire world is being rocked by this thing.