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Trump deports US citizen child with cancer.

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by l_boy, Apr 26, 2025 at 10:44 PM.

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  1. Apr 26, 2025 at 10:44 PM #1
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    this is ghastly. How can people just shrug their shoulders at stuff like this?


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/2025/04/26/us-citizen-children-deported-ice/

    Three U.S. citizen children from two different families were deported with their mothers by Immigration and Customs Enforcement during the early hours of Friday morning. One of them is a 4-year-old with Stage 4 cancer who was deported without medication or the ability to contact their doctors, the family’s lawyer said.



    According to their lawyers, both families were taken into custody while attending routine check-ins this week in New Orleans as part of the Intensive Supervision Appearance Program, which allows individuals to remain in their communities while undergoing immigration proceedings. Lawyers say the families were taken to Alexandria, Louisiana, a three-hour drive from New Orleans, where they were prevented from communicating with their family members and legal representatives and then put on a flight to Honduras.
     
  2. Apr 26, 2025 at 10:58 PM #2
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    They continue to deport US citizens. This is just disgusting.
     
  3. Apr 26, 2025 at 11:01 PM #3
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    Article behind a paywall
     
  4. Apr 26, 2025 at 11:18 PM #4
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    Based upon the two paragraphs outlining 3 US citizen kids one with stage 4 cancer being deported - you still additional info?
     
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  5. Apr 26, 2025 at 11:19 PM #5
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  6. Apr 26, 2025 at 11:20 PM #6
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    Yeah, that’s the issue here.
     
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  7. Apr 26, 2025 at 11:32 PM #7
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    According to the rest of the article: " Instead, officials contend that the undocumented mothers opted to take their citizen children with them back to Honduras. In their court filing, Justice Department lawyers attached a note they say was written by V.M.L.’s mother saying that she was taking the child with her to Honduras."
     
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  8. Apr 26, 2025 at 11:34 PM #8
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    Yes, there is always more to the story than in 2 paragraphs.
     
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  9. Apr 26, 2025 at 11:40 PM #9
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    This is their legal right as parents and legal citizens of another country to do so...

    That means I was right when I said the Federal government does NOT have the right to force SUBJUGATION of babies born of mothers that are legal citizens of other countries. That alone should help to settle the birthright citizenship clause. We have NO right to subjugate babies born of mothers that are legal citizens of other countries. Otherwise, those babies/children would have been prevented from being "deported" to another country whether their mothers wanted them or not... becasue they would be legal American citizens.
     
  10. Apr 26, 2025 at 11:46 PM #10
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    From the paywalled article that @I_boy provided a link for, thank you:

    “It is common that parents want to be removed with their children,” Tricia McLaughlin, a spokesperson for the Department of Homeland Security, told The Washington Post.

    That makes sense, as a responsible parent I would not want to be separated from my children. Even though they are US citizens, a responsible parent is not going to leave them in the country by themselves.
     
  11. Apr 26, 2025 at 11:55 PM #11
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    So faced with the horrible choice of taking her kids or leaving them, she took them, and that makes it all OK with you? The parents were complying with the law

    “According to their lawyers, both families were taken into custody while attending routine check-ins this week in New Orleans as part of the Intensive Supervision Appearance Program, which allows individuals to remain in their communities while undergoing immigration proceedings.”



    They were showing up, doing what they were supposed to do. Why were they suddenly deported? Does the fact that you have 3 US citizen kids and one with cancer not make any difference? What is the rush?

    This is acceptable to you?
     
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  12. Apr 26, 2025 at 11:56 PM #12
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    You just skipped over half of the article including the part about the father and the judge as well as the phone call
     
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  13. Apr 26, 2025 at 11:59 PM #13
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    Ok, the father wanted them and so did the mother, who usually wins that in court?
     
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  14. Apr 27, 2025 at 12:03 AM #14
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    Maybe you let the mother talk to a lawyer to see what her options are and to her husband for more than 1 minute?
     
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  15. Apr 27, 2025 at 12:10 AM #15
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    Ok let them talk, but again, if the mother wants them and so does the father, who wins that battle in the courts today?
     
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  16. Apr 27, 2025 at 12:13 AM #16
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    I like that fact that you have NOT given up on rationalizing your arguments. But... good luck with that.
     
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  17. Apr 27, 2025 at 12:14 AM #17
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    What they're saying is that they don't know if the mother gave consent. The court was not given a chance to adjudicate the issue
     
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  18. Apr 27, 2025 at 12:16 AM #18
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    They said there was a written note from the mother.
     
  19. Apr 27, 2025 at 12:31 AM #19
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    The Trump admin has had a lot of mess ups lately. I take anything they say with a grain of salt

    Hours after the deportation, U.S. District Judge Terry A. Doughty, a Trump appointee, issued an order expressing his concern that the girl had been deported against her father’s wishes while stressing it is “illegal and unconstitutional” to deport U.S. citizens.

    The government contends that this is all OK because the mother wishes that the child be deported with her,” wrote Doughty, who has been lauded for his conservative rulings in the past. “But the court doesn’t know that.”

    That night, the girl’s father was allowed to speak with her mother for only a minute before an ICE agent ended the call, lawyers contend. Lawyers say the man did not get the chance to speak to his partner or child again until after they were released in Honduras.
     
  20. Apr 27, 2025 at 7:53 AM #20
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    Well wouldn’t you say “U.S. citizen kid with cancer” is a pretty compelling case that a judge should hear?

    If it’s a custody dispute (such as a divorce case) and one biological parent absconds with the child without a custody hearing that is actually called kidnapping.
     
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