Welcome home, fellow Gator.

The Gator Nation's oldest and most active insider community
Join today!

War in Ukraine

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by PITBOSS, Jan 21, 2022.

  1. WC53

    WC53 GC Hall of Fame

    5,348
    1,064
    2,088
    Oct 17, 2015
    Old City
    Frankly the public exchanges on this by the US are embarrassing.
     
    • Agree Agree x 7
  2. homer

    homer GC Hall of Fame

    3,164
    940
    2,078
    Nov 2, 2015
    If we’re not going to help Ukraine we need to butt out. Just shut the heck up about it and let Ukraine and other countries that support them do their thing.

    It’s obvious Trump and Vance have become huge Putin butt kissers.
     
    • Agree Agree x 9
    • Winner Winner x 2
  3. gator_jo

    gator_jo GC Hall of Fame

    3,981
    393
    248
    Aug 9, 2024
    Under Trump, the USA isn't the good guys any more.
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
  4. sierragator

    sierragator GC Hall of Fame

    16,704
    13,404
    1,853
    Apr 8, 2007
    Yep, telling Ukraine to take their lumps, cede territory to Russia with no guarantee that Russia won't come back for another bite. Hurry and take that bad deal 'cause Trump and Pootie gotta make some $$$$$$$$$$$. #oligarchs
     
    • Agree Agree x 3
    • Winner Winner x 3
    • Come On Man Come On Man x 1
  5. chemgator

    chemgator GC Hall of Fame

    14,779
    2,115
    1,318
    Apr 3, 2007
    Maybe when we get a real president in office, we can deport Trump and Vance to Russia and let them live there. I know America would be safer.
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • Come On Man Come On Man x 1
  6. G8trGr8t

    G8trGr8t Premium Member

    35,831
    12,618
    3,693
    Aug 26, 2008
    Major overnight attack hits Kyiv. Seems like missile defense is decreasing
     
  7. WC53

    WC53 GC Hall of Fame

    5,348
    1,064
    2,088
    Oct 17, 2015
    Old City
    Stop Vlad Stop. Lmfao
     
    • Funny Funny x 1
  8. citygator

    citygator GC Hall of Fame

    13,838
    2,856
    3,303
    Apr 3, 2007
    Charlotte
    Seems to be doing really well. Trump is masterful.

    Trump Calls on Putin to ‘STOP’ Russian Strikes on Ukraine: Live Updates - The New York Times
    • War in Ukraine: President Trump said that he was “not happy” with the Russian strikes on the Ukrainian capital on Thursday, Moscow’s deadliest attack on Kyiv in nearly a year.
    • “Vladimir, STOP!” Mr. Trump said in a post on social media, addressing President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia, adding: “Lets get the Peace Deal DONE!”
    • On Wednesday, the Trump administration had put pressure on Ukraine to accept a peace proposal that sharply favors Russia.
    • Mr. Trump is scheduled to meet with leaders of Norway on Thursday at the White House, where they are expected to discuss the war.
     
  9. homer

    homer GC Hall of Fame

    3,164
    940
    2,078
    Nov 2, 2015
    Cancel the mineral deal with the US if one was signed.
    Offer it to Europe and Canada
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
    • Disagree Bacon! Disagree Bacon! x 1
  10. wgbgator

    wgbgator Premium Member

    31,799
    2,080
    2,218
    Apr 19, 2007
    Hi Vlad its Donald Trump, Text STOP to end the War in Ukraine, NO to unsubscribe
     
    • Funny Funny x 14
  11. sierragator

    sierragator GC Hall of Fame

    16,704
    13,404
    1,853
    Apr 8, 2007
    and update your payment info while you are at it
     
    • Funny Funny x 4
  12. slayerxing

    slayerxing GC Hall of Fame

    5,441
    931
    2,078
    Aug 14, 2007
    might low key be the best post in the whole thread. I spit out my coffee.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • Fistbump/Thanks! Fistbump/Thanks! x 1
  13. vegasfox

    vegasfox GC Hall of Fame

    3,252
    278
    133
    Feb 4, 2024
    When were we the good guys? When the US stupidly helped start WW2? When the US started the war in Iraq? The US supported Al Qaeda and ISIS in the Libyan and Syrian wars it started.

    The US dragged Ukraine into war with Russia. Supporting Ukraine simply meant massive death tolls and greater Russian annexations of Ukrainian territory. Prolonging the slaughter isn't being "one of the good guys."
     
    Last edited: Apr 24, 2025 at 4:11 PM
    • Dislike Dislike x 1
  14. VAg8r1

    VAg8r1 GC Hall of Fame

    23,503
    1,999
    1,763
    Apr 8, 2007
    So you're saying that the "massive death tolls" could have been avoided if only Ukraine capitulated upfront and agreed to reincorporation into the new Russian empire ending its existence as an independent country or at a minimum agreed to become a Russian client state like Belarus, independent in name only? Got it.
     
  15. WarDamnGator

    WarDamnGator GC Hall of Fame

    11,800
    1,475
    1,718
    Apr 8, 2007
    Was just coming here to post this, telling Putin to "stop" on Truth Social ... That ought to do it. The 24 hours starts now.
     
    • Funny Funny x 1
  16. ajoseph

    ajoseph Premium Member

    7,728
    2,775
    2,998
    Jan 15, 2008
    Trumpian politics will have far-lasting, negative impacts. While we used to be the hallmark of stability and predictability, we are seen globally as an unreliable ally, and a short-sighted enemy, respectively, throughout the world.

    It will take long years to recover our reputation.
     
    • Agree Agree x 4
    • Disagree Bacon! Disagree Bacon! x 1
    • Winner Winner x 1
  17. CaptUSMCNole

    CaptUSMCNole Premium Member

    3,938
    295
    393
    May 23, 2007
    NCR
    If we did that, we would lose any positive control on the situation that we currently have. So what happens if the US pulls back our radar and air defense capabilities and then Russia accidentally shoots down a Polish aircraft near the border and Poland invokes Article 5? Do we allow Poland to pull us into a NATO war with Russia?

    Also, NATO cannot do what the US is doing with Security Assistance Group Ukraine. They do not have the ability, expertise, or the infrastructure. Saying the US needs to "butt out" is essentially saying it is OK to cut off the logistical support to Ukraine.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  18. wgbgator

    wgbgator Premium Member

    31,799
    2,080
    2,218
    Apr 19, 2007
    We're gonna have to do one of those Obama "apology tours," except for real this time
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  19. vegasfox

    vegasfox GC Hall of Fame

    3,252
    278
    133
    Feb 4, 2024
    3 years into the Ukraine war and you've learned nothing. Your opinions have been assigned to you by your brainwashers. Regarding your post:
     
    • Like Like x 1
  20. G8tas

    G8tas GC Hall of Fame

    5,673
    1,051
    553
    Sep 22, 2008
    Trump said he'd end it on day 1. Why are we even talking about this?
     
    • Off-topic Off-topic x 1