War in Ukraine

Moving old and or n korean shells can be risky bidness.

 

intel and precision weaponry...not sure of the origin but appreciative of the results, especialy with the importance of drones

good to see offensive use of air power continuing to be pushed forward. what losses are tolerable and what losses russian can inflict will be cat and mouse


question, with the correct data uplink, why can't I fly drones for ukraine from here if ground crews can sustain flights there could be trusted volunteers around the globe flying 24/7 recon for them on routes programmed by Ukraine


Ukraine’s Precision Strike Shatters Russia’s Elite $7M Drone Command Base in Kursk

On April 19, the Ukrainian Air Force carried out a powerful and accurate strike on a major Russian drone operations facility located near the village of Tyotkino in Russia’s Kursk region. This facility was known to be a center for preparing and launching drones used against Ukraine.

According to information from Ukraine’s General Staff, this facility was responsible for equipping and launching various types of drones — including reconnaissance drones, attack drones, and First Person View (FPV) drones. These drones had been used regularly to attack Ukrainian positions and observe movements inside Ukrainian territory.

The Ukrainian Air Force conducted the strike with the goal of weakening Russia’s drone warfare capabilities. The facility was considered a vital part of Russia’s military operations and played a central role in drone-related activities. Up to 20 Russian drone operators were reported to have been eliminated in this strike, significantly disrupting drone operations along the border.

 

hmmm...major logistical upset soon after major drone control abse taken out and failed offensive spent many russian resources...time for a coorrdinated counterpunch and go get some russain territory, blow up the bridge, and offer to trade it for Crimea

oddly enough, Putin is offering truce to freeze lines while he can rebuild his logistics. only a fool or employee like djt would believe him

Ukraine war latest: Explosions rock what could be one of Russia's largest weapons arsenals in Vladimir Oblast

Explosions have erupted at a Russian weapons arsenal in Vladimir Oblast on April 22, causing a fire, the Russian Defense Ministry reported on Telegram.

According to Ukrainian defense media outlet Militarnyi, the facility in question is Russia's 51st Arsenal of the Main Missile and Artillery Directorate – one of Russia's largest weapons arsenals, located about 530 kilometers (330 miles) from the Ukrainian border.
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Analysis of imagery from the facility suggests that the arsenal stored a wide range of weapons, including medium-caliber artillery shells and missiles for anti-aircraft systems, Militarnyi reported.NIn addition to specialized equipment, the 51st Arsenal and similar bases under the Main Missile and Artillery Directorate are believed to store large stockpiles of heavy artillery shells, munitions for multiple launch rocket systems (MLRS), and small arms ammunition.

The facility has a history of similar incidents. On June 22, 2022, a detonation of ammunition occurred during unloading operations, killing three servicemen and a civilian specialist and seriously injuring another.

 

And people wonder why Putin wants to negotiate now. It’s simple- Ukraine is lighting him up with long range attacks, he’s running out of soldiers (hence another recent draft), and our president is offering him like the best deal short of Ukrainian surrender he is ever likely to get. It’s pretty easy math. That third point is probably the most important.

 

Yes, but Ukraine would still have to agree. Before that, the other allies would have to agree, too. It is not as simple as the United States says it, and everyone has to go along. Ukraine has already proven they can keep resisting without U.S. support, and the other Western countries have already proven they will keep assisting Ukraine whether the U.S. does or not and whether the U.S. pressures them to stop or not. Whatever deal the U.S. intends to impose has to convince Ukraine and the West that it will lead to a lasting peace. Otherwise, we might as well cut to the chase and start applying maximum pressure to the more vulnerable (and solely guilty) party.

 

I thoroughly enjoy watching you take Putin at face value one day and regard him as Satan the next. I’d recommend focusing on actions, rather than words. That goes for all involved.

 

No problem with that.

 

Actions
Actions
Words

 

With regards to Russia it ain’t Trump. He can’t be blamed for not knowing that the US never had the cards.

 

US presuming to act as mediator in its own war on Russia.

 

I went to the Vladimir oblast about 25 years ago to adopt my son. There was nothing there. I think the oldest Russian church is in the region. It dated to about 700 ad.

 

Trump: Give Russia everything it wants and call it peace

Zelensky: Uh, no.

Trump: You are all fools.


Trump Live Updates: China Tariffs, Ukraine War and More - The New York Times
On Wednesday, Mr. Vance told reporters in India that under the American proposal, “We’re going to freeze the territorial lines at some level close to where they are today.”

“The current lines, or somewhere close to them, is where you’re ultimately, I think, going to draw the new lines in the conflict,” he added. “Now, of course, that means the Ukrainians and the Russians are both going to have to give up some of the territory they currently own.”

The vice president did not say what territory Russia would have to give up. Russia currently occupies 18.7 percent of Ukraine, according to DeepState, an online research group with ties to the Ukrainian army.

A freeze would essentially force Ukraine to surrender huge swaths of land to Russia and would violate the principles of self-determination and borders that has animated the United States and European nations to support Ukraine since Russia’s invasion.

 

Kellogg flying home with a big L.

 

Thoughts?

 

dude you’ve been wrong more times than anyone else on this thread but you still approach everything like a sanctimonious turd sandwich.

 

sure - so Putin is continuing fighting while calling for peace - so either he’s stalling or he’s desperate for a best possible exit. Third options?

 

The US isn't even at the table.

We gave the ukies chips to ante up with, and gamble away.

The notion that very scary Russia is actually scary, is actually hilarious.

Nukes aside, the US would castrate the Russian bear in a matter of days, in a conventional engagement (which isn't to say we could invade to Moscow... just that we could remove their ability to pose any kind of offensive threat). Days. Not even weeks or months.

 

Pentagon officials have reached out to “an unspecified allied state,” urging them to halt their continued arms supplies to Ukraine. However, that country rejected the request.

Two comments here:

First, this development was entirely predictable. The U.S. administration’s plan to pressure Ukraine into capitulation is clearly failing. While the U.S. has cut all aid, European countries have stepped up their support. Now, the U.S. is shifting its pressure onto them, trying to force Europe to capitulate as well.

Second, the U.S. doesn't have true "allied states" anymore. European trust in the U.S. has eroded significantly. Travel from Europe to the U.S. has plummeted. The European Commission has begun issuing burner phones and basic laptops to staff traveling to the U.S. — a precaution once reserved for trips to China — to “avoid the risk of espionage.”

Sources: The Economist, Financial Times


So yeah - assuming true- how do we judge this? Words or actions?

 

I’m not sure what answer you’re looking for from me, but I was only agreeing that that we should pay attention more closely to what the various players do (or fail to do) than the verbal diarrhea that falls from their mouths. Putin talks, for instance, like a guy who’s always on the verge of decisive victory … but his army’s last meaningful gain in the field was at Avdiivka — what? — 14 months ago.