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This dialogue started with you wanting to cap the money. I said you can’t cap NIL. You said it isn’t NIL, it’s pay for play. I explained to you why it’s not and why you can’t cap it.

Sure, the majority of the people funding it want it to be pay for play, but as long as the contracts say it’s for NIL, that’s what it’s for and you cannot cap it. If you want a cap, you need employment AND a cba.

*Here is where the dialogue started:

 

The money is for what the contract says it’s for and you cannot cap it. I don’t know how we can’t agree on that. That’s literally what it is.

NIL money is also certainly used to lure players to certain schools to play sports. Pay for play under the guise of NIL. If it makes you happy to say that, that’s fine. You still can’t cap it because it isn’t actually pay for play and even if it was, you don’t have a cba. Any attempt to place a cap without a cba, which also needs employment and a players union, would be price fixing and that is also illegal. You need the schools to make the athletes employees, let them unionize, and the schools and the athletes together to formalize a collective bargaining agreement before any type of cap can be instituted.

You tell me to be real, but you won’t accept reality. Regardless of what you or anyone else wants it to be, these kids are getting paid to live in a certain area and/or be available for an appearance every now and then (maybe a few other non-play related things). That’s what it is, because that’s what the contracts say it is. If you sign a four year deal for a kid to live in Gainesville and be available once a month, that’s what you’re paying him for whether he ever sees the field or not. He’s owed his money whether he ever takes the field or not because that’s what you agreed to pay him for. You can pay him $10 or $10 million, and the courts have outright said any attempt to restrict this money will be shot down.

 

Give him a bag and he will get takers

 

It absolutely is pay for play and circumventing intentionally the nonlegality of what is really happening. It one of those" if you cant prove it, it didnt happen," situations. It's historical that anyone woulf believe Nico was paid over 2 mil to rs based on the profitability of his nil. Its worse than nascar ever was. Dirtirst sport in history.

 

Attorneys are a plague .

 

I would say it was awfully stupid to give Nico two million+ for his NIL, but I’d bet ya a dollar that’s what his contract says it’s for. If I wanted to give him another 2 mill to come to my nephew’s bday party, the court says you can’t restrict me from doing that either.

 

Contracts are for bs, as far as college football

 

It is pay for play (and always has been)and we pay but not as much as some others. If you want OSU results in recruiting you have to pay what they pay, and we don't, which is because of donors. Did Billy Gonzalez become a better recruiter? No, we paid for receivers.

 

Actual pay for play would be a huge step up. What you have right now is pay for almost nothing in most cases. Some kids, like DJ, have some real endorsement deals, but most of the money nationally is being funneled through collectives which don’t require much of anything from the athletes and offer zero ROI to the people funding it. Actual pay for play would allow a lot more restrictive language in the contracts. In conjunction with a cba, you could potentially even have a salary cap. That won’t stop the flow of third party NIL money, but it’s still the route towards limiting movement and settling things down a bit.

 

We all know that the money is spent to get athlete X to play for team Y, but that isn't how the contracts are written...which makes them virtually worthless in regards to keeping athlete X at team Y unless they choose to be there.

 

Money and evaluation. You get the wrong players and they will hop on to the next shiny dollar. You have yo find the right players and make them happy to be there financially and otherwise.