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Musk scams Tesla owners out of warranty repairs with fake odometer readings

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by WarDamnGator, Apr 18, 2025 at 9:41 AM.

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  1. Apr 20, 2025 at 9:57 AM #41
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    A good friend of mine had one of those. He got a very nice payout.
     
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  2. Apr 20, 2025 at 10:53 AM #42
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    The warranty is 50k miles and that should be actual miles. However the range on a full charge is just an estimate and has many variables to it. Similar to the avg mpg you see on new cars for sale.
     
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  3. Apr 20, 2025 at 10:53 AM #43
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    Interesting that Musk, who seems to have an obsessive compulsive need to post about every trivial slight he perceives, doesn’t appear to have made a statement yet….
     
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  4. Apr 20, 2025 at 10:59 AM #44
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    I get that range is a separate issue from how miles are measured, and I only posted that Norwegian study on range because it mentioned that they also noticed the odometer disparity, as a side note….

    But it does appear that musk is also playing games with the range calculations… and the odometer does relate to that. As the Norwegian study noted, the inflated odometer reading on the Tesla gave its owners the impression it was getting somewhat closer to the advertised range, even though it was vastly underperforming….
     
  5. Apr 20, 2025 at 11:01 AM #45
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    Next time I dive over 50 miles on the interstate I’ll check odometer versus the actual mileage
     
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  6. Apr 20, 2025 at 11:05 AM #46
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    Thanks for doing that, but also check it in stop and go traffic, if you can. Or after you’ve been idling for several minutes … I suspect that where is inflation would happen the most, if the “milage” is calculated by energy use. Interstate driving probably uses the expected amount of energy per mile.
     
  7. Apr 20, 2025 at 11:31 AM #47
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    I’ll try it under variety of conditions. It will be harder to get accurate distance though but I’ll try. I think you need to get a longer distance to be more accurate.
     
  8. Apr 20, 2025 at 11:48 AM #48
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    the range on my hybrid is advertised at 600 miles...i'm lucky to get close to 500
     
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  9. Apr 20, 2025 at 8:43 PM #49
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    tesla whistleblower being allowed to move forward to force him into court to defend himself.

    bad news for Musk
     
  10. Apr 21, 2025 at 5:41 PM #50
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    I would think unless there was direct instruction from Musk to do this it’s doesn’t hurt his imagine anymore than it’s been hurt.

    Sadly sometimes middle level people do things without proper authority, time will tell if this was some co-ordinated effort to cheat people.


    Side thought. I wonder if it would be better to have an hours meter for EV batteries. I’m not sure how lifespan is affected by low level use or high level use. Similar to “city vs highway” miles.
     
  11. Apr 21, 2025 at 5:59 PM #51
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    I’m sure they have an hours meter already, my friend has one and it can display all kinds of data, so it’s probably in there. It may make sense to use that for the warranty, or some other metric, like recharge frequency…. But the warranty should state that clearly. For my hybrid, it’s actually “a more you use it, the longer it lasts” relationship with the battery. In fact, when I looked into the cost of replacing the battery using a 3rd party (which I don’t need, but was curious), their warranty was the opposite of what you’d expect…. It was a 3 year warranty, but only if you put 10000 miles or MORE on it a year. Less than 10000 miles and the warranty was reduced…
     
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  12. Apr 21, 2025 at 6:36 PM #52
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    Makes sense. I know with my batteries for power tools they seem to last longer when being used more(to a certain degree).

    100% warranty should be clear on that.

    Interesting this has just come up now, Teslas have been on the market for how long?
     
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  13. Apr 21, 2025 at 8:51 PM #53
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    Diesels have an odometer AND an hours meter. I would have assumed electric vehicles would have the same.
     
  14. Apr 22, 2025 at 12:14 AM #54
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    diesels can spend a lot of time idling so little bit different..
     
  15. Apr 22, 2025 at 12:44 AM #55
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    I've said it before, and I will say it again. EVs are a fun novelty, but they are still not quite ready to be a daily driver main more of transportation. The cold kills batteries because they are still NOT solid-state batteries. When they master the solid-state batteries the cold should not be that big of a problem. Wind on the other hand... yep, still a problem.
     
  16. Apr 22, 2025 at 2:17 AM #56
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    Any EV that gets 300 miles of range is more than a novelty, and even ones with lowly 200 mile range are enough to serve almost everyone as a “daily driver”. Longer commute may want to have more slack.

    The main shortfall is on road trips or people who are high mileage drivers (deliveries or Uber drivers). If you need to “fill up” 2 or 3 times. That isn’t quite there yet, or still has major gaps.
     
  17. Apr 22, 2025 at 6:06 AM #57
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    Okay, some are not a novelty in reality, but to me... they are NOT ready for prime-time. You can't travel coast to coast and feel comfortable doing it. I would not feel comfortable worrying about where to charge my EV.

    But batteries are getting better every year, and I am confident that one day in the next 10–15 years or so they will meet my comfort level expectation.
     
  18. Apr 22, 2025 at 6:20 AM #58
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    Understand that but batteries have a finite life so I don't see why it wouldn't be something to monitor as well unless it's purely a lifetime of the battery itself and not just usage which it may be. Maybe hours in battery life would have a different scale value based on all of the variables like heat, cold, recharge cycles and actual usage.

    Then again, with all those variables I just mentioned I could see why hours usage tracking wouldn't be apples to apples and have limited value.
     
  19. Apr 22, 2025 at 7:25 AM #59
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    Telsa stock crashed again ahead of earnings report which is today after the markets close. Boy has Elon screwed that up.

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