The way I see it - Blue Bloods- UCLA, Indiana, Kentucky, Kansas, UNC, Duke, UConn 1 championship away- Florida, Villanova, Louisville Need 2 more- Cincinnati, San Francisco, Michigan State, Oklahoma State, NC State
I think he just did. Florida as you showed is one of the few with 3 Championships in the past 20 years and and more sweet 16 and final 4's than teams like Indiana as well in the past 30 years and maybe more all time. Only old people like me remember Indiana being a blue blood and UCLA has been nothing special in the last 30 years.
I don't know about Blue Blood. That Probably depends on consistent success over more than a couple of decades with sold out arenas and a solid history of treating football season as an off season. I just hope the Gator boys stay hot.
The only school with 3 natties in football and 3 natties in basketball puts us in a league of our own. Throw in a baseball natty, plus all the tennis, golf, track and field, etc and the University of Florida is untouchable!
We’re going on 30 years of real success now. We’re a new blue blood. Even a Kentucky beat writer had us pegged as one before this championship.
This. We're a New Blood but not a Blue Blood. If we win like 10 more titles over the next 4-5 decades, then we can talk. We're clearly in the mix for most successful programs in the modern era, but history is long and we have none before 1987. I'm sure that sounds ancient to those under 40, but it's not.
Read this link and see if you reevaluate your position on us requiring another 4-5 decades. https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketbal...#:~:text=When was 'blue bloods' first,1, 1946
If simply based on Natty's were in discussion for sure. If you want to look at things like wins, winning percentage, tournament bids, sweet Sixteens, etc. We're a looong way off the mark. I'm not suggesting your wrong and I'm right, To me, there's more to the convo then just titles. Like longevity and consistency.
Blue Blood is a mythical label, of course… and I’m not sure there are any true metrics. On paper- absolutely we can get there… and maybe already arrived. But I’ve always assigned a kinda odd association with Blue Blood… and have thought of that grouping as the elite programs at which basketball is the dominant and revered sport.
Hmmmm....Blue Blood is the converstation, huh. Before I can jump in with my two Gator (C)sense someone name a Blue Blood that has not only won Three Nattys in MBB & Football but won a Natty in both in the SAME year against so-called "Blue Bloods." That's a damn short roll call list. That seems to be more like Meta Blue Blood than the so-called "Blue Blood."
I agree it’s not just about championships but it’s a good approximation for a nebulous concept of being good and I think the concept generally requires a greatness punctuation for a program in that elite category. My argument is that the definition has changed over the decades and it’s an ever-changing list. UConn made it “in the club”and I think UF and Villanova are there. We’ve had a lot of consistency for the past 40 years starting under Sloan which is a couple generations. Only 15 programs have multiple national championships and the likes of Oklahoma State, San Francisco and Cincinnati haven’t won titles since the 40s, 50s and 60s respectively (and NC State’s most recent title was 42 years ago). Most of those were in a different era and the landscape has drastically changed.
I think we're there. Indiana hasn't been relevant since VHS was king, but their fans keep them in the picture I guess, sort of like Nebraska in football, nothing else to do in their flat state of corn.
I agree, the campus and fan base need to be invested, in good times and bad...that's a durable "blue blood" status IMO.
You're correct that it's completely nebulous but at the end of the day, its not up to us to decide if we are a BB or not. I may have overstated our requirements up thread, but I don't think we're there in the eyes of the CBB world. Not yet
My gf is went to Indiana I joke how did UF become a basketball school and Indiana become a football school. lol. Indiana being a football school is a joke but you have to give them something.
When it comes to history and titles over periods of time. I just wonder if you can lose your blue blood status? I mean UCLA won a ton of titles in the 60s-70s but only 1 since 95. So basically 1 title in the last 45 years. Duke became a blue blood when? Mid 90s? Was it due to titles or was it because people hated them, which brought on more coverage and it just slowly became the narrative that they were a blue blood. Are they the last team to be accepted into the blue blood class, or is it UCONN?
