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Should Good Genetics Be Rewarded for Reproducting?

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by thedonaldgod, Apr 6, 2025.

  1. thedonaldgod

    thedonaldgod Senior

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    To start this off, before everyone starts screaming "EUGENICS" and people call me a MAGA/Nazi just for voting for President Trump, I am not saying that people with bad genetics should be banned with ever reproducing. But is it time to reward those with good genetics to produce offspring with the same superior genetics?

    This thought came to me last name watching the Gators in the Final 4. Here I am, with either another allergy/asthma flare up or some sort of upper respiratory infection (if not both), watching individuals who have far superior genetics. The one thing I've noticed the most recently, watching both the Men's and Women's Final 4's, is how the majority of players have at least one parent who was a star athlete in college. For some of them, BOTH parents were star athletes in college. While they still had to work hard, they had the genetics to succeed.

    Look at Alijah Martin's dunk last night, or even just the athleticism of the four teams in general. I could get a personal coach, learn basketball, practice 8 hours a day every day for years, and I would even get close to dunking like Alijah Martin did last night, or just having the jumping skills or athleticism in general that those four teams had. I just don't have the genetics for it.

    I know many here won't like it, but we need to have smarter and more athletic offspring. Here's what I would propose:

    - For all adults between the ages of 18 - 45, a mandatory physical each year with genetic testing. During this physical and the genetic testing, the physician reviews their current conditions as well as what conditions they may have going forward. Without this mandatory physical each year, the adult can not procreate.
    - Those who have certain genetic conditions would have those conditions reviewed with the doctor, including the fact that they would most likely pass it along to offspring. The conditions would include the following:

    - High Blood Pressure / Heart Disease
    - Neurological / Learning Difficultires
    - Allergies / Asthma / Lung Diseases
    - Gastro / Stomach Diseases
    - Kidney or Liver Diseases of any type
    - Cancer of any type
    - Blindness or otherwise bad eye site
    - Type 1 Diabetes
    (There would be others as well, but these are just some off the top of my head)

    - The doctor would then encourage adults who have chronic or genetic conditions to not procreate. They would advise that many of their chronic or genetic conditions would be passed on to offspring. The doctor could also then encourage that adult to look at adoption if they want children.
    - The doctor would then encourage adults with very good or perfect genetics that they should procreate. Services could be set up to match that adult with another adult who has very good or perfect genetics, if the adult is single. The doctor can then provide resources, including government rewards for procreating.

    Now note that this would not include conditions that are lifestyle / eating related, such as being overweight, having high cholesterol or having Type 2 diabetes. It would not include anything that can be reversed, only diseases and genetic conditions that can only be treated, not reversed.

    For adult couples, where at least one have very good or perfect genetics, a reward can be given of $500,000 for each child they have.

    For adult couples where BOTH adults have very good, if not perfect genetics, and other qualifiers, they could be awarded a "super couple" or "super breeder" status. Here would be the qualifiers:

    - Both the man and woman must have near perfect genetics, with no hereditary
    or chronic diseases.
    - The man needs to be at least 6 feet tall, the woman would need to be at
    least 5 foot, 10 inches tall.
    - Both the man and woman need to be near their perfect weight, not
    even 1 lb overweight.
    - Both the man and woman must work out at least 5 days a week on average
    and be in peak physical condition, which could be defined as being able to complete at least a half marathon

    If the "super couple" or "super breeders" meet these qualifications, give them $5 million dollars for each child they have. Not a bad incentive, had 3 kids, you get $15 million dollars. Many of these "super couple" or "super breeders" would most likely be incredibly smart and/or former College/Olympic athletes.

    For those adult couples where NEITHER adult has good genetics, and both have chronic conditions, a penalty of $10,000 per child at birth. Also, a penalty of $2,000 for each year the child is in public school, since that child would most likely require additional teaching, a small classroom environment, and would overall take up more resources.

    People have a right to reproduce regardless. But like other right, that doesn't mean there can't be limitation. Just like you have a waiting period to buy a gun, and can't say "fire" in a crowded area, if adult couples with poor genetics still want to procreate, there should be penalties, whereas the adult couples with great genetics should be rewarded.
     
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  2. thedonaldgod

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    Again I know it's controversial, but we need to start encouraging the best people here in the U.S. to have kids and discourage the worse genetic people to either adopt or not have kids.

    And just so people don't think I'm being hypocritical, I would put myself in the "poor genetics" category. I have no kids and honestly, I'm glad I'm not passing my faulty genetics along to another generation. I accept that my genetics need to die out of the population.

    And let's not act like we don't already socially engineer. Look at how we tax cigarettes and alcohol and put the 21 age restriction on them. Look at how cigarettes can no longer sponsor events or have commercials. The U.S. Government is all but trying to phase cigarettes out of society, and while the free market capitalist in me doesn't like it, I understand the reason overall. We definitely encourage some things, while discouraging other things.

    By doing what I outlined above, we could lower, if not eradicate, many diseases and chronic conditions and let future generations live a longer, fuller, healthier life.
     
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  3. dave_the_thinker

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    I'm not against NIL, but I am not paying half a million to produce the next UGA five star recruit.

    lol
     
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  4. thedonaldgod

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    Who's to say it wouldn't be the next five star Gator recruit? I agree I don't want UGA to have more five star recruits in football, but think bigger picture here.
     
  5. pogba

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    I give you this, it is extremely high effort trolling
     
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  6. thedonaldgod

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    It’s not high effort, I truly think rewarding those with superior genetics is something most countries should seriously consider, especially here in the U.S. The medical industrial complex and big pharma would fight it, but we could eradicate many common diseases.

    Republican or Democrat, we want our kids, or at least the next generation, to have it better than us. Giving them superior genetics would be huge and ensure they are better physically and mentally than we are.
     
  7. duggers_dad

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    I would categorically reject, on pain of punishment, mandatory ANYTHING medical. The healthcare industry has done quite enough harm, without bringing in new mandates and the field of genetics is murky at best.
     
  8. homer

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    Republican or Democrat, we all want our kids, or at least the next generation, to have it better than us. Giving them superior genetics would be huge and ensure they are better physically and mentally than mostof us.[/QUOTE]


    What if your family genetics are trash? Let’s eliminate your family tree by not allowing them to reproduce?
     
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  9. GolphinGator

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    What if your family genetics are trash? Let’s eliminate your family tree by not allowing them to reproduce?[/QUOTE]
    I think him posting this proves he should never pass his genetics on to anyone.
     
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  10. demosthenes

    demosthenes Premium Member

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    I think the premise behind Gattaca is much more likely and probably in the not too distant future.
     
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  11. thedonaldgod

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    The mandatory genetic testing would be done at private practices, not government facilities. HIPAA would still apply. The government would only get a generic "pass or fail" on the result, not specific medical information. The only thing "failing" would get would be a $10,000 penalty if they have a child. Those who "pass" would be given $500,000 for each child they have.

    The only people who would have to provide more information would be couples who want to get the "super human" or "super breeder" status to be eligible for $5 million for every child they have.
     
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  12. thedonaldgod

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    Let's not beat around the bush, that's exactly what I am saying. Some family genetics need to die. They just aren't healthy genetics. Again, I know for me, even if I got married in the next year, I would be very clear to my spouse that we would not be having children and continuing my family's trash genetics. If my spouse wanted child, I would push the adoption route or even allow my wife to be artificially inseminated with sperm from a sperm donor (assuming it met our genetic requirements).

    Again, I acknowledge my trash genetics. I have made that decision that my terrible family genetics need to die and be out of the gene pool. Others in my position need to be making that same decision for the health and prosperity of future generations.
     
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  13. duggers_dad

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    Minor problem with genetic testing …

    The DNA HOAX
     
  14. duggers_dad

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    Major problem with genetic testing …

    Who distinguishes the desirable from the undesirable ? I know couples who knew -beforehand - they’d likely bear a Down child, had the Down child and have no regrets.
     
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  15. thedonaldgod

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    Nothing to do with regrets. They would have just had to pay a $10,000 one time penalty, along with $2,000 for each year in public school. We all know that having a down child, that child will take up more resources in school than a regular child. And yes I get they can still live a fairly normal life. My cousin, thanks to our trash family genetics, has a child that is down syndrome. They also have no regrets, but again, the child requires more attention at school and far more medical appointments than a regular child. The cost if flat out more. So I don't think a $10,000 one time penalty is a lot to ask for what that down syndrome child will take from society.

    I would say that couples decision is irresponsible. They know the quality of life will be greatly diminished from the time they are born. I myself would never want to have a down child, call me evil if you want. I would probably look at an abortion. Not out of cruelty, out of saving that child from pain and suffering their whole life.

    Would you not want a society where a child would have 0% chance of being down syndrome? I know I would.
     
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  16. duggers_dad

    duggers_dad GC Hall of Fame

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    Oppose with all my heart, soul and strength fining people for the kind of kids they have.
     
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  17. jeffphillips21

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    it's "reproducing"
     
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  18. Spurffelbow833

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    If you try that on a woman, she's going to find a sperm donor without using artificial insemination.
     
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  19. dynogator

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    Some of the greatest thinkers in history had very average parents, and some brilliant parents have had very average children.

    Anyway, your thesis is insane.
     
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  20. homer

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    Freedumb rings.

    Mandatory SMDH

    Fortunately this will happen when pigs sprout wings and fly. Which is never.