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Foreign Travel to US Falling Fast

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  1. gtr2x

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    Abu Dhabi is the next site last I heard.
     
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    Speaking of Red Rocks, wife wants to see a concert there. We would have to fly in to Denver and drive out. Just curious how is the drive and if there are any nearby places to stay. Don't want to make a long drive in traffic back to Denver at night if I can avoid it. Is Uber/Lyft an option?
     
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    Red Rocks is owned by the city of Denver. It is just W. of town. Very easy to get to from the airport. My rec for hotels is Lakewood (2 of the last 3 times I went to RR, I stayed at a Marriot or something in Lakewood) No city traffic between Lakewood & RR. If you want a bit more scenic, stay in Golden. Same deal, very close to RR - more expensive. Origin Hotel Red Rocks is as the name suggests right there & has a shuttle to the venue. Rooms are usually pretty pricey.

    It is a really well run venue. Parking is free. & something few people seem to know is that you can leave your car there until 10am the next day.

    You should go! Take layers. It is 6500 ft & can have big temp variations between start & ending of shows.

    yes. Plenty of uber/lyft/taxi options

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  4. tigator2019

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    In my head--- UF
    Now you are just trolling. Good day and good bye.
     
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  6. mdgator05

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  7. G8trGr8t

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    on the plus side, more reward seats at saver award prices should open up to help fill those unsold seats...
     
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  8. gator95

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    Not just the US having a slowdown. Travel down 30% in Ireland.

    Tourism continues recent decline, with February numbers down again

    Tourism figures have continued to decline, with a 30pc drop in the number of foreign visitors coming to Ireland in February, according to the latest figures from the Central Statistics Office.

    Total spend by those visitors was €196m, excluding fares, which was also down over 30pc on the same month last year.
     
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  9. gator7_5

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    That number is almost too hard to believe. Maybe it is.

    "An Air Canada spokesperson told The Airline Observer that while bookings have declined, it has seen "significantly less" than the 70% average reported by OAG."
     
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  10. tigator2019

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    In my head--- UF

    • In March 2024, 1,218,570 tickets had been booked for April 2024
    • In March 2025, 295,982 tickets have been booked for April 2025
    • That represents a 75.7% reduction in tickets booked
    ALSO
    Shares of Delta have fallen about 20% each this year. Billions in losses
     
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    When the orange monkey and his band of simians have totally wrecked the country, I'm sure we can find a way to blame Biden if we try really hard.
     
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    WE?
     
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    Are you really that obtuse or are you just trolling?
     
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    That has to be fake. I drove by a hotel this morning and I saw cars in the parking lot. ;)
     
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  16. cocodrilo

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    Who in the world wouldn't want to travel to Trumpland, or the United States of A**holes? Stay at a nice west Florida resort on the Gulf of Trump (there's an executive order in the works), and hope that you don't get accidentally deported to El Salvador while you're here.
     
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  17. thedonaldgod

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    I think the travel slowdown has as much to do with out of control prices as it does with politics. I think the politics are just an easy scape goat. Cost of living is so out of control in Canada, and the Canadian dollar is still weak agains the U.S. dollar (I was really surprised how cheap it was for me to eat out in Canada when I factored in the conversion rate. I could easily eat out and include a tip for $15-$20 at a decently nice restaurant without any alcohol. The same quality restaurant in the U.S. should have set me back $35-$40 without any alcohol.) that it's making travel to the U.S. hard for Canadians.

    The nationalism aspect I think it being used by many Canadians who either 1) weren't planning a trip to the U.S. soon anyways and 2) maybe just flat out aren't able to afford a trip to the U.S.

    The reality is travel has become really unaffordable for the lower and middle classes. I know I've cut back this year. For the first time in probably at least 10 years, I don't have a full week Vacation planned. I have two 3 night cruises planned, one in May out of Miami and one in November out of Port Canaveral. I have a December long weekend trip planned to New Orleans and an October/Fall trip planned up to the WV mountains for 5 days. But nothing international and no week long or longer trips. I might even end up taking a week off in the summer and do a long weekend trip somewhere (maybe a Saturday - Wednesday trip) but then just relax at home or do day trips on Thursday and Friday.

    Airfares have gotten really bad, even for the budget airlines like Spirit and Frontier. Hotels are out of control, any decent hotel in a tourist location is going to set you back $200-$250/night and of course with Americans wallets getting hit from all angles, that's just less in general for travel.
     
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  18. thedonaldgod

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    At the end of the day, I think when travel does start to genuinely slow down later this year, it will be global, not just in the U.S. As another poster already provided, travel in Ireland is already down 30%.

    Canada better watch out with the rhetoric as well. Yes Canada is the #1 country for citizens visiting the U.S., but the U.S. is also the #1 country for citizens visiting Canada. The U.S. losing Canadian visitors hurts, but it's not crippling. If Canada loses U.S. visitors, Canada's tourism industry is crippled. People aren't traveling from Europe just to go to Canada. If they are traveling and going to Canada, it is typically in combination with a U.S. trip.

    I'll admit, I would be concerned about traveling to Canada right now. How will I be treated? Will Canadians be rude to me, will they make rude remarks to me? Will some Canadian businesses refuse to serve me? In the worst case, could I be assaulted or otherwise become a target in Canada just for being an American? All the Canadians who say they are reconsidering or cancelling trips to Canada. I think there's also many Americans reconsidering or cancelling trips to Canada. And if they piss off Trump enough, Trump would easily just ban any non-essential travel to Canada. Again, that would cripple Canada's tourism. Canada needs the U.S. more than the U.S. needs Canada.

    While I think there will be a slowdown in tourism, and that it will be global is nature, I can also say I'll believe it when I see it. Living right in the tourism mecca of Florida, the Orlando area, I have seen no significantly downturn in tourism yet. Trust me, traffic around the theme parks is still awful. Go look at any YouTube personality who does videos from the parks, both the Disney parks and Universal parks have been packed. I'm a Universal Annual Passholder and went 2 weeks ago. Both Universal Studios and Islands of Adventure were near body to body. I have friends who work at Disney who have told me that Magic Kingdom and Epcot have been body to body for the last month as well, especially on the weekends. So it hasn't happened yet.
     
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  19. mdgator05

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    Pretty easy to test your theory that travel is just too expensive. Let's compare internal travel to external arrivals.

    Let's start with Orlando, a major destination city.

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    That theory does not appear supported.