Scientists conclude that it was not a Wuhan lab leak

I don’t really care about what 27 scientists said 5 years ago, and I’m clearly not as invested as you are in proving my side is right, when I’ve already said I don’t see conclusive evidence on either side.… but here we are, 5 years later, and I’ve yet to see anyone propose a theory, let alone provide evidence, on how China manufactured a virus without leaving a genetic footprint, which seems like the most crucial component of proving it was a lab leak… so for now, it’s impossible to say those 27 scientists were wrong…

 

Lab leak was never naughty or cutting edge. It has been “permitted dissent” since January 2020.

Both sides agree Bad Chinese Virus but only disagree on origin.

The people who were disappeared were the people, no matter their expertise or prior reputation, who argued not bad or non-existent.

 

This. Whether or not the lab or the wet market was the origin, it's difficult to come to the conclusion that the virus was man-made without any of the genetic markers. Without the genetic markers, it either means the virus was naturally zoonotic, or the Chinese are decades ahead of us in their virology research that they can create new viruses without known genetic markers.

 

To Wit:

“Lab leak” and “zoonotic spillover” theories are the two constituent parts of a deliberately engineered false dichotomy.

By permitting argument between these two choices alone, the question as to whether we actually had a pandemic at all—and what therefore caused the myriad harms—is avoided.

Yet BOTH theories have the same endpoint: the sustenance of the “Pandemic Preparedness Industry” which, flush with a hugely successful “Covid” episode will no doubt delight in the prospect of lucrative reruns.

Every single aspect of the “Covid” narrative is fake. There was no pandemic.

 

Yeah, I would try to not talk about that also if I was trying to make the opposite argument. But it did happen and if you just trust them, well that makes a lot of sense because you said you trusted Fauci on covid and he knowingly lied to the public. But you are ok with it...

 

This is a podcast / YouTube show where actual virologists talk about viruses. From their perspective the arguments made by lab leak proponents border on absurd.

They pretty much shred the arguments made by the lab leak proponents. These are the people that best understand the issues.

So you are left with
- you believe what these experts say
- or you believe that they are all conspiring to cover up the truth.

 

These people (pharmaceutical companies and their ilk in the Dems Party) will lie even after the government sues them and makes them pay billions of dollars... They will take this lie to their graves.

 

Yes we can

 

Fauci

 

I have plenty of articles that paint it the other way as well. Here is a good one. When there is this big of a coverup from all involved it makes me think they did something dirty. You can believe what you want, but for the most part these "scientists" got pretty much everything wrong on Covid...

MSN

The researchers published an extensive database in 2019 containing more than 22,000 collected samples.

However, Chan notes, access to the data was “shut off” in the fall of that year, and was not shared with American research partners even after the pandemic began.

Scientists at the Wuhan lab reportedly became sick with COVID-like symptoms as early as the fall of 2019, according to information leaked to the Wall Street Journal and later confirmed by US government sources.

However, Chan wrote, the scientists denied that they were ever sick.