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Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by jjgator55, Mar 6, 2025 at 1:22 PM.

  1. homer

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    You lost me at he doesnt side with Putin. If you really believe that you are,,,,,,,
     
  2. jjgator55

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    I wouldn’t begrudge you for that opinion and I’m not going to attempt to argue your point because I’m not a biblical scholar and haven’t read the text in its original Hebrew or Aramaic. Having said that the problem comes when some try to turn those religious beliefs/doctrine into state and/or federal laws. A marriage can be defined as a religious ceremony or a binding contract between two people. Several if you’re Mormon. A church can refuse to allow a marriage to take place in a church, but to say a gay couple can’t get married at all simply because they’re gay is homophobic in my opinion. And if a church wants to perform the ceremony then it should be allowed to take place because religious freedom goes both ways. In short it’s really no one else’s business but theirs.

    I agree with you, I don’t think anyone does and that’s the reason they have separate male and female restrooms and locker rooms. Transsexuals aren’t gay, and I seriously doubt anyone would intentionally surgically change their sex just so they could go into the other restroom.

    Everyone wants fair and legal immigration, but I refuse to buy into the concept that immigrants are all rapists, murderers, and disease carriers that want to eat our household pets. There are desperate people running away from horrible situations that are so bad that they’re crossing deserts, swimming rivers, and climbing fences just to come into our country to cut lettuce. We used to call that the American dream. The problem as I see it is the process takes way to long because there aren’t enough judges to hear their cases.

    The racism comes in is where light colored people seem to have an easier time getting in than the darker colored ones. Of course Trump blew that argument out of the water by deciding to deport all the Ukrainians.
     
  3. gatortenor37

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    I see. But I have yet to see him definitely choose one side over the other. He wants both to communicate with him. It’s my personal belief that Putin would not like us taking minerals out of Ukraine. That’s not siding with him. That’s a give and take. I’ll let it play out and hold until then. Trump is a business man. Negotiations are his livelihood. If I see otherwise developing, I reserve the right to eat crow.
     
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  4. gator_jo

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    You'll understand that when the first thing you say is incorrect, it casts doubt on all the subsequent ...... incorrect things you say?

    This is not to be rude, but you need to improve your factual knowledge of some, or all, of these events.
     
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  5. gator_jo

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    ^ I like the funny rating, but you should have used the time instead to research the things you post about. Then you'd know what you're talking about, and wouldn't post inaccurate things. But hey - you do you.

    Here's what one legal expert says though;


    Donald Trump suffered another legal reversal on Monday, losing his counterclaim for defamation against E Jean Carroll, the writer against whom he was found liable for sexual abuse and defamation and fined $5m, and who continues to pursue a separate defamation case against him.

    Dismissing the counterclaim, a judge in New York, Lewis A Kaplan, said that when Carroll repeated her allegation that Trump raped her, her words were “substantially true”. Kaplan also set out in detail why it may be said that Trump raped Carroll.

    Judge says E Jean Carroll allegation Trump raped her is ‘substantially true’ in court dismissal
     
  6. gatortenor37

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  8. citygator

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    Being overly sensitive to racism is 100X’s worse than actual racism and very un-Christian. Christ said so, I think.

    Flatulence 2:3-6
    3.“And I say to you, pull yourselves up by your bootstraps, be wary of the welfare queen, make sure the poor have skin in the game with income tax, Food Stamps are the devil’s honey, especially the 53% that go to children. Community and collective organized care for the needy is a sin from the Government. 4. Ensure the wealthy keep as much wealth as possible it is theirs and they received no benefit from the sacrifices and work of many others. 5.Beware of Jesse Smolletes… they will trick you into thinking there is racism. There is no racism. Any discussion on it is worse than racism, which doesn’t exist. 6. If you pray one day… maybe not in your lifetime or your children’s children’s, but one day wealth will trickle down to the poor like mana on the slaves if you just cut the wealthy taxes enough.” - Jesus Christ sermon at the Bar
     
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  9. gatortenor37

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    You choose to listen to a liberal judges “opinion.” New York law says this isn’t “rape”. Sorry to disappoint with facts.
     
  10. gator_jo

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    Perhaps. But I accurately stated what the judge's opinion is as "what one legal expert says."

    You're still saying untrue things.

    To your credit, you appear to not know better. That's why I helpfully suggested you take this time to research and learn. Or you can continue to not know things, and state things that are untrue. Your choice.
     
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  11. gatortenor37

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    Read the AP article. What I said was true. They settled because Steponallofus stated an untrue “fact”. Sheesh
     
  12. gator_jo

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    Try again, buddy.

    Perhaps you'd like to explain the "winning" verdict in this lawsuit that he won?

    He won a law suit against Steponallofus for stating “rape” as fact.

    Or perhaps you'd like to cut your losses and admit that you said something that is untrue? At least it seems you're finally researching the topic. Learning about it, that is.
     
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    Get a lobotomy and a big white sheet. That is all you need. You would benefit in no way, but you will be a successful zombie.
     
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    MAGA is populist. It’s neither conservative nor liberal (small l). The reason to be a MAGA supporter is you have been “left behind”, and you have nothing to lose. Trump’s unconventional ideas are the appeal. He also has the attention economy locked down.
     
  15. gatortenor37

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    Thanks bud. Everyone and their brother knows settling with the person who is suing you is essentially losing but saving face in court! So yes. It is a win for Trump. Deal with it!
    BTW I am not proud of this past behavior of Trump. I believe He has since changed his behavior for the better. He has been trying to learn more about God and according to Franklin Graham he is changed. However, God will be his ultimate judge. Not us.
    https://premierchristian.news/us/news/article/franklin-graham-says-donald-trump-is-a-changed-person
     
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  16. gator_jo

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    Everyone and their brother knows that you are wrong again. But here's a list of cases your felon has settled. Enjoy!!

    According to your logic, he's guilty of racist housing practices, numerous sexual assault or harassment cases dating back to 1997 or earlier, he's settled fraud cases, ran a scam university, lots more fraud cases ....

    ...... and he's been found guilty in defamation cases, criminal felony cases, adjudicated guilty of sexual assault .....

    .... and on and on and on.


    Wow - you are in servitude to an outright racist, sexual assaulting criminal. He's clearly guilty of all these things (not just the ones with an actual guilty verdict) by virtue of his settling them! AmIright?

    It's hard to tell what you enjoy more - shilling for a sexual assaulting criminal, or being wrong about the law. Either way, enjoy!!


    https://crushthelsatexam.com/deep-dive-donald-trumps-long-history-of-lawsuits/
     
  17. gatortenor37

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    Welp,

    Then I guess all these “truths” just makes your life miserable for the next four years. Hate it for you.

    Take heart. Happiness doesn’t rely on your circumstances. God is in control. Peace my brother.
     
  18. gator_jo

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    It doesn't bother me that you are beholden to a racist, sexual assaulting felon.

    Ought to bother you, but ...... God has directed you to ignore those truths?

    Pretty convenient. :)
     
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    Where are god's five bullet pts on what she did last week?
     
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  20. gatortenor37

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    I choose to Forgive those who trespass against me. Goodness knows I don’t deserve forgiveness for things I’ve done, but God gives us what we don’t deserve. That’s Amazing Grace. I’ll do the same to others.
    However, Trump isn’t a racist. Watch what he does and not what political haters say. His actions speak louder than your words. As far as him being a felon, I watched how that was clearly a weaponization against him and I believe he will win his appeal. Did he sexually assault women?Unfortunately its true. He was wrong for that. He was younger and has since repented. It isn’t who he is today!

    Again. Try not to worry about others. We all can get along, even with different points of views.

    Peace to You and Yours.
     
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