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Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by jjgator55, Mar 6, 2025 at 1:22 PM.

  1. sierragator

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    Let them eat cake
     
  2. vegasfox

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    Obama smoked crack and engaged in gay sex with Larry Sinclair, not Ray Epps. Obama was also born and raised a Muslim
     
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  3. vegasfox

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    What does MAGA stand for?
    1) Free speech
    2) No censorship
    3) Peace abroad, not war
    4) Seriously cut federal spending
    5) Control the borders. Don't let in criminals and people who will be a burden
    6) Get rid of regulations that hurt economic growth
    7) No men in women's sports
    8) Get rid of DEI
    9) No transgenders in the military
    10) No wokeism
    11) School vouchers, free online education
    12) Less pollution by keeping our population in check
    13) Cut waste, fraud and abuse, especially regarding NGO's
    14) No vax mandates
    15) And so on
     
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  4. jjgator55

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    No that doesn’t do it for me. The question “what is a woman” is a bad faith question because as it is asked it can’t be defined to the point where the answer can’t be argued. Is the question a biological, emotional, or philosophical one? It’s no different than asking what is strength, or what is smart because the definition can be different for everyone. Of course if someone asked me that question and demanded an answer, I’d simply ask if you’re referring to gender or sex. An interesting observation though is that the only people asking that question are conservatives, so apparently liberals already know.
     
  5. jjgator55

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    But outside of three or four of those items liberals believe the same things.
     
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    MAGA told me it's what genitals you're born with but then told me the olympic boxer born with a vagina wasn't a woman. They also can't answer the question.
     
  7. jjgator55

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    It’s not bait, it’s a legitimate question. If a MAGA/Trump supporter can’t explain their support in a way that can win another person over then maybe they should reconsider that support. The best answer I’ve read from someone on the right gave is a list of things with the majority of those things the left agrees with. So if we agree on most things then all I’m left with are things that are racist, homophobic, or generally fear.
     
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  8. vegasfox

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    Could you list by number the things liberals support.
     
  9. jjgator55

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    Like I said it’s a bad faith question because they know there’s no definitive answer. Still they want to hang on to it.
     
  10. jjgator55

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    Sure I could.
     
  11. tilly

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    Cmon jj. You cant convince me to vote for a liberal.Does that mean you should reconsider your support? Of course not.

    Trying to convince you...or I...is a fools errand.
     
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  12. jjgator55

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    Why not? There are some Democratic members on the far left, like any of the Justice Democrats, that I wouldn’t vote for mostly because they’re not liberals. From what we see the right isn’t interested in convincing anyone that their way is the best way, and their only interest is in owning the libs.
     
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    For starters you and I would disagree on the definition of racism and homophobia.

    I think marriage was ordained by a creator to be between a man and a women. I believe we were designed for the opposite sex. I do not support violating the civil rights of those who disagree with me. I also dont consider their sin any worse than my own sins. But many here would say that I am homophobic simply for disagreeing.

    I think biological males should never be in a place where biological women would not want them to be. (Restrooms, locker rooms, sports teams). That isnt "homophobic" or bigotry.

    Thats the issue. The left has created fake terms and then they have defined them in such a narrow way that the right cannot In good faith agree with them.

    Racism is another misused word. Being pro immigration reform is not racist. Calling out looting and rioting is not racist. Yet those accusations have been made on this board.

    If we want to reach common sense agreement than lets stop with the co-opting of terminology by one side or the other and at least come to a common sense reality of what the terms should really mean.

    Racism is alive an well.
    Bigotry against gays is alive and well.

    But the space for debate within the parameters of those terms should exist.

    Until they do, there will be no coming together.
     
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    This. When a Democrat shouted during the speech, I suddenly realized just how wrong they are!!


    Also;

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    I have always been a very strong believer that God is the ultimate judge. It doesn’t matter about parties or leaders of parties. They can have whatever agenda they want to. In the end, their laws are not the ultimate higher laws, of which we all strive to meet yet often fall short.
    Still, I look at every candidate/party and see how they line up with what I believe God would want for our good as a people and a nation. The democratic ideology currently chooses to go against many laws of the Bible. Example: being for abortion at all stages, wanting to go against traditional marriage, against prayer in public, basically telling God thanks, but we know better? I personally cannot vote for that. Again, It’s not the person, its the policy that will lead us further from the truth. I will do my small part in staying as close as possible to the biblical truths of Gods eternal laws.
    Currently, that means the Republicans. Although not all of them in my opinion.
    Also personally, I don’t trust big governments. More power breeds corruption. I also am for term limits because I think people on both sides become corrupt easily by money and greed. But I know we will never have perfect government. We are all living in a fallen state and are awaiting the final judgement day that will set everything right that has been wronged. I urge anyone who believes in God and the Bible to remember that Jesus is King. No party or candidate is perfect, and no one can lead us better than Christ. God Bless.
     
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    Great pts.

    wrt bio men competing with girls/women...it is a NO BRAINER. To refuse to protect girls & women b/c it would mean not siding with the most marginalized group is asinine. & yeah, peeps are called bigots for having common sense.

    ditto. illegal immigration. Being for immigration reform is not racist.

    I don't think marriage should involve gov in any way, so 2 outta 3 aint bad.
     
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    So the felon traitor Rapey Trumputin is your vehicle to godliness.

    Thanks for letting us know. Good luck with that.

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    Yeah, sure. But to address only a single point: we're way past falsely characterizing tolerance of overt racism as ....... having a rational policy viewpoint.

    Also;

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  20. gatortenor37

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    You do realize You are buying into the lies right? He won a law suit with a settlement against Steponallofus for stating “rape” as fact. He wasn’t convicted of that. And the other charges were made up just to get him in a 90% democrat population. A “violation“ by the way that the campaign office said was perfectly fine.
    Also, this idea that he sides with Putin isn’t true either. He wants peace and the end of fighting. As do I. In order to do that You have to have diplomatic relations with both sides in communication. He can’t insult Putin and get him to the negotiating table!

    And most importantly, No sir, he isn’t more godly than any other man on earth. All have sinned and fallen short. If you would have read all my statement, You would know that if it was anyone else leading us to a closer alignment. That’s who I vote for and then pray for earnestly.
     
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