Zelenski agrees to minerals deal (fell through)

Would a headcount matter to you? No, it wouldn't. Sentence two proves that. Plausible deniability, eh? The point is not whether they "disturbed negotiations." They clearly did, but we need not go down that rabbit hole. That they were advocating for continuance of the war and for a foreign leader to oppose the POTUS is the bad business. But they clearly gave Zelenskyy the message it was okay to do what he did and yeah, it's nobody's fault but Zelenskyy's. That doesn't make what they did okay.

 

1. He asked for the headcount because another poster made the claim that democrats out numbered republicans.

2. What is the basis claiming they disturbed the negotiations other than them simply meeting with Zelenskyy? Lindsay Graham had no problem with the content of that meeting and was excited to go over to the signing afterward.

 

It was I who made the claim in #1. Does it matter? It doesn't. As for point #2, you're either being flippant for the sake of being flippant or you truly have no clue about diplomacy or the etiquette. The short version is that you don't undermine a trip by a foreign head of state to meet with the POTUS period. That it involved encouraging the proliferation of bloodshed makes it unusually appalling and disgusting.

 

Man. Those euros know how to take a tough stance on Russia

European Union spent more on Russian fossil fuels than Ukraine aid in 2024

 

You’re just making up etiquette and the contents of the meeting to suit your narrative.

 

Am I now? Tell me how many leaders you have seen come to the White House, rolled their eyes at the president multiple times and come out on the good end of that? The party doesn’t matter. Name one other time a world leader has behaved in that way towards our president in front of God and everyone. And how did that go for them?

 

Moving the goal posts from elected officials meeting with Zelenskyy ahead of his meeting with the President to Zelensky’s supposed comportment at the Oval Office. Nice. The only people that acted like asses in the Oval Office were Trump, the couch humper, and MTG’s side piece.

 

Slovikia and Hungary …. Two Russian puppet states, we’re about all that we’re still buying, until Ukraine shut off their pipeline in January.

 

Budapest is on my bucket list. One of the very few European cities I’d have any interest in visiting.

 

Reportedly, Zelensky’s staffers were in tears after the imbroglio …

Zelenskyy 'Regrets' What Happened During Oval Office Meltdown; Ukrainian Officials "Desperate" To Get Deal Back On Track, Trump Not Interested | ZeroHedge

 

No, but he probably realizes that he's an adult dealing with a clown. And a clown who is a Putin lackey as well.

Zelensky probably just realized that he didn't tailor his approach as if he were speaking to a toddler. He's going to do that now, perhaps.

 

Perfect response from an adult. No fake apology. Just stated the truth.

"We do really value how much America has done to help Ukraine maintain its sovereignty and independence. And we remember the moment when things changed when President Trump provided Ukraine with Javelins. We are grateful for this," he said. "Our meeting in Washington, at the White House on Friday, did not go the way it was supposed to be. It is regrettable that it happened this way. It is time to make things right. We would like future cooperation and communication to be constructive."

 

Zelensky could crawl into the room on hands and knees, genuflect before Trump, massage the hell out of that massive ego, and I don't think it would change a thing. I think the script is already written, and Ukraine, regrettably, is a dead country walking.

 

That meeting changed nothing for Ukraine’s future - the election of a Russophile did. Trump was abandoning them regardless. He offered to broker their surrender.