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Measles Outbreak in a Texas Low Vax County

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by PITBOSS, Feb 9, 2025.

  1. QGator2414

    QGator2414 VIP Member

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    Stop posting BS like this.

    I am curious. Do you know the back story in Samoa and the measles outbreak there? Do you understand the real WHO? Why? What? When? Where?

    Or do you just post garbage articles that don’t even mention the real reasons for what happened in Samoa?
     
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  3. BLING

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    From your article:

    “What did RFK say in Samoa? I don't know but the time course makes no sense. He visited in 2019, but vax rates were already low. The die had been cast.”

    There may have been other factors that turned the outbreak into 83 deaths, but if this guy “doesn’t know” what RFK said perhaps you could enlighten us? What was RFK, vaccine skeptic, even doing there at all in Samoa? He sure as shit wasn’t encouraging vaccination. Sounds to me at best RFK used the accident with the initial 2 deaths as an opportunity. Your YouTube guy blamed the Samoan govt for suspending MMR vaccinations, high likelyhood RFK was lobbying for them to stop MMR vaccinations. If that is the case, pointing out Samoa’s already existing issues is hardly exonerating a guy who at best added more fuel to the fire.
     
  4. duggers_dad

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  5. OklahomaGator

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    Apparently, the measles outbreak in Texas is in an area where they is a large Mennonite community. They hold some beliefs about medical care that lead to outbreaks like this.
     
  6. duggers_dad

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    Mennonite anti-vaxxers must be in there somewhere but you almost need an electron microscope to see them …

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  7. VAg8r1

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    FYI:
    Although the measles vaccine didn't become mandatory until 1980, it was developed in the 1950s and became available in 1963. A more advanced form of the vaccine was licensed and became available in 1968. The downward slope of the graph began in the 1960s.
    History of Measles
     
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  8. duggers_dad

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    Correct, when measles deaths were near zero.
     
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  9. VAg8r1

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    Because a significant percentage of children began receiving the vaccine on a voluntary basis after it become available in the 1960s.
     
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  10. duggers_dad

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    How can you not see it ?

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  11. QGator2414

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    It really does not matter what he said. He may have said be careful I. Your judgement. The reality is the government came clean about two kids dying because sure screwed up the drug and then the government put a 10 month halt on the vaccine. The rate of those taking the vaccine had plummeted well before Kennedy ever showed up there. Add to it the health system and culture and you will find your answer. It was not Kennedy!
     
  12. duggers_dad

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    Conditions MUCH nastier than measles which were believed, for centuries, to be contagious …

    Scurvy and Pellagra.

    I mean, your gums are bleeding - and then everyone on the ship’s gums are bleeding - has to be contagious, right ?
     
  13. OklahomaGator

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    do you have that graph for the US?
     
  14. duggers_dad

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  15. OklahomaGator

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    That is still from England/Wales. Do you have the US graph?
     
  16. duggers_dad

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    Massachusetts here …
     
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  17. OklahomaGator

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    What happened in the 1930sthat caused the dramatic drop in measles deaths?
     
  18. duggers_dad

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    One of these things is just like the others …

    scurvy
    pellagra
    measles
     
  19. duggers_dad

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    Not vaccines as they weren’t available! Typical explanations include reduction of toxins through better sanitation, better nutrition, etc.
     
  20. QGator2414

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