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War in Ukraine

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by PITBOSS, Jan 21, 2022.

  1. okeechobee

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    TDS
     
  2. Endless Excuses

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    Please...facts are difficult things...it must be tough to see mass pardons for absolute criminals who beat cops and disrespected our institutions. I know it was easy on day one to back the blue but when Faux told you the real version of what to believe the next day you drank up that bitter pill and down she went...and for god sakes and eggs...oh lord eggs..theyre not going down in price. Incompetent clown cant even get chocolate egg prices to go down. Easter is going to suck with chocolate and hen egg prices...
     
  3. demosthenes

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    Hilarious you think you can manage me and get an upper hand in a conversation by implying I’m irrational and emotional. You also don’t have an honest take on what Zelenskyy said, but that’s par for the course for you.
     
  4. JustaGator

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    If Russian only had a professional army left, without which any NATO ally would feast on a Russian incursion with more modern weapons and better armies.
     
  5. ajoseph

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    The news-edited highlight optics sure looked like a set-up. But the majority of the press conference was relatively uneventful, until the end. Zelensky made many mistakes, and bluntly, as an experienced international leader and diplomat, he knew of the traps beforehand, and walked right into them, anyway. He grossly mishandled the matter.

    I am not excusing Trump-Vance double-team, so don’t get me wrong. I found their schoolyard name-calling abysmal, and beneath the dignity of their offices. It was disgraceful.

    But, Zelensky made too many errors.
     
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  6. citygator

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    Total respect for that response.
     
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  7. citygator

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    I am not sure about that. Maybe. But the talks were going no where. All Trump wants is for Ukraine to surrender so he can say he ushered in peace. Zelenskyy could have surrendered without Trump’s help. He knew when he flew here that Trump’s offer was useless. “Give us mineral rights so we can help you surrender” makes no sense. I am sure he hoped to get Trump to offer security in a moment of weakness that never came.
     
  8. duggers_dad

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    Time to grow up kiddies …

    This Is Not A Marvel Movie

    The Ukrainians aren't the plucky good guys. The Russians aren't cartoonishly evil. Vladimir Putin isn't a movie villain. As long as people believe this propaganda, they will resist attempts to end the war. The next step is for the Trump administration, ideally the Vice President, to give Americans a more accurate explanation of how we got here. Glenn Greenwald did that recently in the X thread below.

    Cutting Zelensky Down To Size | ZeroHedge
     
  9. CHFG8R

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    All while being irrational and emotional and completely outing yourself as a mental lightweight with the lazy term "TDS". All of this while completely ignoring his own, full-blown case of BDS.

    Or maybe we should call it DTDIMMS. T stands for Trump. D stands for . . . .
     
  10. VAg8r1

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    Distilled to one sentence, since it's common knowledge that Trump is the poster boy for Narcissistic Personality Disorder and craves adoration Zelensky should have praised and grovelled before the Dear Leader including refraining from criticism of Vladimir Putin.
     
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  11. homer

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    Need to stop with the kindergarten theater BS. Either you support helping Ukraine or you don’t. If you don’t then don’t. Trump doesn’t. He needs to poop or get off the pot. The only reason he’s still talking about it is he wants a mineral deal. If Ukraine didn’t have any he would have cut them off first day in office. As to JD, I saw his story and thought he would be a decent VP. One I could cast a vote for as president one day. That ship has sailed. He’s nothing more than an arrogant arse and grandstander.
     
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  12. jjgator55

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    You make an interesting point about the minerals in Ukraine. It makes me wonder why we continue to dump billions into Israel, the only country in the Middle East that doesn’t have oil.
     
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  13. jjgator55

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    We’re not the ones making treasonous posts, you are. Time to grow up.
     
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  14. SotaGator

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    The mineral deal was a smokescreen. #47 is looking for an excuse to lift U.S. sanctions on Russia to help them rebuild. He needs to say "see, Zelenskyy doesn't want peace.' I mean, c'mon, who tries to negotiate a peace deal by leaving out one of the two factions?

    Ukraine was not invited to the so-called peace talks. You have to ask yourself, what is Russia willing to give up for a cease fire or peace agreement? The answer? Absolutely nothing.
     
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  15. Endless Excuses

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    Well when both the Republicans and Democrats were 100% in agreement Putin and Russia were cartoonishly evil...here are the minutes of the meeting both the GOP and Democrats supported wholeheartedly post invasion. Other than being one of the worst humans on planet Earth other than Hitler, Pol Pot and Stalin he is just a great guy....


    - EXPOSING PUTIN'S CRIMES: EVIDENCE OF RUSSIAN WAR CRIMES AND OTHER ATROCITIES IN UKRAINE
     
  16. chemgator

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    Sesame Street, for the knuckle-dragging crowd.
     
  17. G8trGr8t

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    Israel has massive volumes of nat gas. Think we should get some of that
     
  18. G8trGr8t

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    He exposed dt to the world on a public stage what a putin puppet he is and solidified European support rather than die slowly in the vine.
     
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  19. G8trGr8t

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    If he wanted to surrender he could have done that three years ago
     
  20. okeechobee

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    Your TDS makes you weak and predictable.