Definitely some things for sully and the other coaches to get after them for. Could be a little humbling after such an easy/fun weekend.
I didn't get to see the game (or listen to it or follow the thread); is this just a matter of "we don't like the rules" or is this a matter of "we don't think the rules were applied correctly?" Go GATORS! ,WESGATORS
Get an external device to plug into your tv. Unless you’re that guy who said he gets less than 1mbps or something crazy like that.
Sure seems like the former. I was watching both games and wasn’t paying attention that closely, but it sure seemed like the rule is pretty clear. Wait until we get a guy diving back in that grabs the sissy bag instead of the white bag. Same rule in reverse.
Idiot kid announcer called the new rule arcane. Likely true, since one great feature of baseball is the hundreds of arcane rules. Readers of this board recently had a chance to read a good explanation of the rule. I still can't repeat the whole rule precisely, but I recognized the issue right away and realized the Gators might be about to benefit from knowing the rules of baseball better than the opponent. Someone on the Gators spotted the mistake and called the appeal. The new rule is odd and exists to avoid injuries, but it's no more bizarre than balk rules or the infield fly rule. Batting helmets are bulky and defininitely not part of distant baseball tradition and faced opposition in the '50s and '60s, but they now are part of the game with their own little package of helmet rules. I thought the replay was pretty clear that the guy was on the white bag, but did that reach the standards we usually hear required for overruling a call. It seems Stetson players had not practiced following that rule for either offense or defense.
Help me understand this rule. If a runner doesn't touch the orange bag, the opposing team can tag the runner before he gets back to 1B in order to challenge the call? That was said a lot last night. If the runner gets back to 1B before a tag/challenge is made then he is safe regardless? Last nights announcers had no clue so it made it even more confusing.
The easiest way to think about it is that if the runner doesn't touch the orange base, he has missed first base entirely. It seems the nuance of the rule is the "appeal" part. The Gators had to have done something indicating that they suspected he missed the orange base immediately before he returned. That's the part we didn't see. The rule literally says that if you touch first base, you are deemed to have missed first base. Also important to note that it seems the first base umpire technically should not have made a call at all, so maybe that's where some of Stetson's ire comes from. That's just an unfortunate result of this being a new rule and the umpire is part time employee getting paid by the hour on a Tuesday night.
OK, I could not pull the basketball team thru. Can't give the opponent a 25 point lead and expect to win. Nice try but failed in the last minute. Did get the baseball team through. Tell you how later.
I haven't seen any commentary from the Stetson coach on this. Would be curious to know if he is unhappy with the replay call or if he is unhappy that it was reviewable. I get why it's a bigger deal for Stetson than it is for us (don't tell @wingtee I said that), but I can't help but think back to the 2017 game and how that really upset them ( https://gohatters.com/sports/baseball/schedule/2017, scroll down to April 4th if you're not familiar). Has anybody seen any comments from Trimper? Go GATORS! ,WESGATORS
“It’s a brand-new play with a new base,” Trimper said. “We got a lot of rules that we’ve been practicing and practicing. I felt like we had a right right there to refer to the rulebook and follow the rules. I’m still going to look into it a little bit and see what happens. “But there was supposed to be an appeal on that play, and they didn’t appeal to the first-base ump. That’s the way we were taught. I just want to make sure we follow the rules properly as we go forward.”
“We saw it in the dugout,” Florida head coach Kevin O’Sullivan said. “It’s a different rule, but the rules are the rules. You have to touch the colored bag.”
STETSON PROTEST HAS BEEN DENIED BY NCAA The NCAA has handed down a ruling on a controversial call in a baseball game between Florida and Stetson that caused the game to be played under protest on Tuesday night. The NCAA has upheld Florida’s 6-1 win, confirming a call in the seventh inning that was immediately subject to scrutiny. Stetson called the ruling “disappointing” in a statement released by athletics director Ricky Ray and reported on by Jesse Simmons. “We were notified last night by the NCAA that our protest of Tuesday’s baseball game was denied,” Ray wrote. “While this does not come as a surprise, it is disappointing. I continue to believe the rule involving the safety base was not properly adjudicated in this situation. “I am disappointed for our student-athletes and coaches, as well as fans of both institutions. A great night to celebrate the exceptional college baseball played in our state was overshadowed by a ruling that was added just weeks before the season.”
His argument is that the play had to be appealed on the field before the runner returned to the base? Wasn’t subject to review? He’s not arguing that his guy didn’t screw up, right? If the right call was made, I don’t really understand the uproar. I haven’t looked at the actual rule. Has anyone else?
Haven't looked at the rule either but his issue seemed to be more procedural than substantive. Not really arguing that they didn't get the call right just that they didn't follow the proper steps to arrive at the right call.
