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How the Gators are about to get $crewed in the seedings

Discussion in 'Nuttin but Net' started by ncbullgator11, Feb 24, 2025.

  1. GatorPlanet

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    Fingers crossed.
     
  2. rserina

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    Possibly Texas Tech or Iowa. Closer, but hardly around the corner.
     
  3. GatorRade

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    Right here
    I think this is the article you are citing:

    Delayed flights, NFL advice and epic rants: How traveling in expanded conferences is impacting teams

    Indeed, it’s a good piece considering this new problem. I do wish that they had referenced expected wins and losses, as most teams lose on the road, so that represents a confounding factor. For comparison, the SEC this year is 80% at home and 44% on the road.

    Moreover, it does seem like they think the biggest issue is jet lag and getting good sleep, which wouldn’t be such a problem for Florida, as the tournament format allows teams to travel early and play more than one game during the trip (you hope). Indeed, one of the solutions suggested in the article is bunching the games up on long trips.
     
  4. gatorgeezer

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    I think you can put money on it
     
  5. filamg8torfan

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  6. GatorKP

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    Lunardi dropped us to a 2 seed. Kind of silly, but I hope Todd shows this to the team to give them even a little more motivation tonight.

     
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  7. ncbullgator11

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    I certainly hope our first round will be in Raleigh. The plan is to set up the mother of all tailgates.
     
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  8. dave_the_thinker

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    Joe has some weird back-and-forth going on with himself.

    "Houston slips ahead of Florida for the last #1 seed, but the Gators could reclaim it tonight."

    OK, so beating White and the Dawgs will launch us as a serious 1 seed.

    Then he has Florida as the top 2 seed going to Newark?

    I'm with @Distant Gator though, Indy is where we want to be ... we don't want to play a bunch of West Coasters in the first 2 rounds 3 hours past our bedtime...
     
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  9. GatorRade

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    It may not be so crazy. Houston just collected a marquee win at Texas Tech. If Lunardi thinks that’s enough to bump them past us, I don’t begrudge him. And I’m also not bothered if he further thinks that Houston has barely passed us, so that another Q1 win (as @UGA would be) for Florida would flip it back.
     
  10. GatorLurker

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    Bama is the team that should be bumped to the 2 line.
     
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  11. filamg8torfan

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    Lunardi is a looney. He likes Bama à lot that's why he has Bama à #1 seed and the the Gators #2 in his mock NCAAT chart.
     
  12. paidinfull

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    He doesn’t have a say anyway. Not sure why anyone cares what he thinks.
     
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    His latest bracketology update has Bama & Florida as #1 with Houston as #2, so that twitter post doesn't make sense at all
    I personally don't get how Bama is #1 for many over Houston
    To me clear cut top 4 teams are Auburn,Florida,Duke,Houston
    Florida I think has seperated themselves over every body else

    Lower the seeding for some team I disagree with. St Johns has
    been dominant, IMO at worst #3 many brackets have them #4
    seed which is dumb. Maryland great, should be higher then #5
    Wisconsin I think is way too high. Some got them as a 2 or #3
    I'd have them no higher then #4. They're 5th best Big 10 team

    Lower down as far as bubble teams, I have no clue how Ohio St
    is being considered let alone in the field for most. They're barely
    above .500 at 15-13. I do not see any case for them. Easily the
    worst bubble team. The bottom of the SEC below Vanderbilt' too
    inconsistent. I personally would only give SEC 12 team this year
    Oklahoma has been awful in SEC play & Georgia isn't any better
    I can't feel comfortable putting a 4-10 team in conference in the
    field no matter how good the SEC is. It's too many losses for me

    Feels like there is only going to be about 3-4 at larges from other
    Non Power 5 conferences. I always want there to be more. Atl 10
    deserve both VCU / George Mason, UC San Diego,UC Irvine been
    strong in Big West. I also hope clear top team in their conference
    win their tourneys like Drake, High Point, Liberty, Mcneese & Yale
    as they all have the capability to win 1-2 games in NCAA tourney
     
  14. dave_the_thinker

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    Well sure, but the "crazy" part was that he has Florida as the top #2 seed (5th overall) but heading to the East bracket in Newark.

    Tennessee he has as 6th overall, but the Vols land in the South.

    Is there some seeding dynamic I am unaware of? Seriously, someone educate me.
     
  15. GatorRade

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    That’s probably what I would do too, but right now Bama is #1 over Houston in most brackets.

    The Bracket Project's Bracket Matrix - 2025
     
  16. GatorRade

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    His slotting is a little weird here, but usually it would follow the S-curve (where #1 gets #8, and #4 gets #5). However, there a couple other rules they follow. Eg they don’t want teams from the same conference to meet in the first two rounds. Also the #1 seed is the only one that gets location preference. If #1 Auburn were slotted in Orlando, they would never put a #2 seed Florida in Auburn’s bracket so as to not put Auburn at a disadvantage. But I can’t make much sense of Lunardi’s specifics, as they don’t seem guided by these rules.
     
  17. grant1

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    Gonna play our way into a 3 seed if we don’t watch out
     
  18. Brodeur

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    They went away from struct S-curve slotting and instead aim to make the absolute ranks of the top 4 seeds in each region to be balanced while accommodating geographic preferences and keeping intra-conference teams separate as much as they can.
     
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  19. RealGatorFan

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    Where do you get that we have a better Quad record? Duke's Quad 1 record is 6-3, ours is 5-4, the 2nd worst record among the Top 10. Quad 2 - 4 is Duke at 19-0 and us also at 19-0. How about road wins? Duke tops us there too, 9-1 vs 6-3.

    The issue with these rankings is what is each team doing now. Duke is embarrassing us in the last 4 games. The largest margin of victory, most points, fewest given up, never behind at any point in any game. Us, however, look bad against a bad LSU team and then lose against a bottom-of-the-SEC Georgia team who had lost 4 straight games and scored their most points this season against an SEC opponent. That's being double-digit behind in the 1st half of those games. Meanwhile, Duke is doing the opposite against better competition.
     
  20. GatorPlanet

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    Valid arguments. The flaw in it is that Georgia is demonstrably better than all but 3 of 18 ACC teams, and LSU is better than all but 6 ACC (per Kenpom).
     
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