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The tip of the Iceberg- new EPA Chief finds $20 BILLION slush fund

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by g8orbill, Feb 23, 2025 at 7:20 AM.

  1. rivergator

    rivergator Too Hot Mod Moderator VIP Member

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    Why does this crap have to be a constant? When you’re spending $6 trillion a year, there’s bound to be waste, fraud … or simply dollars that could be better spent elsewhere, or not spent at all.
    But rather than an intelligent , reasonable effort we get this crap.
    Condoms in Gaza! 150-year-olds! Chelsea Clinton got $84 million! Secret slush fund! Billions to stacey Abrams!
    Good freaking grief!

    Just a matter of time before we get a thread "Biden's secret army received $53 billion! Fully armed at his disposal!"
    And someone will point out ... uh, that's the Marine Corps.
     
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  2. jjgator55

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    I was thinking the same thing about the SEC. You would think with all the money they get they could at least afford to hire decent officials for games.
     
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  3. OklahomaGator

    OklahomaGator Jedi Administrator Moderator VIP Member

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    I actually can agree with you on this post.
     
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  4. l_boy

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    After strolen elections, q anon, pizza gate, Obama is not American and Jade Helm…..this sunrises you?
     
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  5. G8trGr8t

    G8trGr8t Premium Member

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    truly disturbing that there are that many voters that voted for this
     
  6. studegator

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    Every dollar of taxpayer money should be traceable, from beginning to end. There needs to be a permanent department of DOGE, who can openly inform taxpayers on where their money is spent. No telling how many dollars were spent”earmarked” for whatever, then goes into the pockets of individuals in the system.
    Plain and simple, we taxpayers are being scammed by our elected politicians. We’re just one big “honey hole”.
     
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  7. rivergator

    rivergator Too Hot Mod Moderator VIP Member

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    I agree it should all be traceable. Now, can I ask why you think this money wasn’t? I reallly hope you answer.
     
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  8. studegator

    studegator GC Legend

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    Back in my Democrat days, I believed the “stolen election” was just another conspiracy. after looking at the states that don’t have voter ID, I’m no longer so sure. No way that I can see to verify election integrity if you can’t verify the voter. Several of those “no voter ID” states are our biggest populated states. Another thing that raises questions for me are the “voted” numbers in the last 4 elections. The total number of voters in the Biden won election, is so far off the other three (two before, one after) is very suspicious.
    Map shows voter ID laws by state
    Voter turnout in United States presidential elections - Wikipedia
     
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  9. studegator

    studegator GC Legend

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    That’s the whole point, we don’t know, as we don’t have accountability/proof of where every dollar ended up. Zelenskyy says they did not get all the money we said we sent them (billions), another report saying ANC leaders started driving Lamborghinis and other expensive cars after getting US taxpayer money. Just two off the cuff. So, make it traceable to the end.
     
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  10. gator_jo

    gator_jo GC Hall of Fame

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    Got any evidence for this lie you're trying to perpetuate?

    Ya know, when you encourage your fellow Trumpies to believe in lies, through your parroting of them, you're not actually doing them any favors. You're just filling their heads with misinformation and encouraging them to tell lies themselves.
     
  11. rivergator

    rivergator Too Hot Mod Moderator VIP Member

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    This $20 billion in this thread. How do you know it was not fully accounted for?
     
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  12. BLING

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    Unfortunately you are describing things out of the U.S. govt control. No way to guarantee 0 corruption on the ground once aid leaves U.S. custody. We should certainly be able to tell exactly how much was “delivered” with 100% certainty. Of course if one believes something like humanitarian or military aid is being hijacked by foreign political corruption or warlords, such that it isn’t effective to the civilians who need it, then of course it calls into question the idea of sending aid in those locations at all.

    I assume the people doing this have an idea of how much is getting through vs. what they consider “acceptable losses” for a particular humanitarian endeavor. What that % is I have no idea and reading this article, doesn’t sound like anyone truly knows with precision.

    The funny thing is I was going to suggest 20%, that is an oft-cited, but apparantly bs number with no basis. Although it has no basis because it’s impossible to track, not because it isn’t true. 20% is a plausible guess, but that’s all it is… a guess.

    https://www.cgdev.org/blog/20-aid-really-lost-corruption-zombie-statistics-and-their-sources
     
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  13. WC53

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    Old City
    Fruit loops vs Frosted Flakes
     
  14. archigator_96

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    The money was allocated legally and through the proper channels, but when money starts getting transferred multiple times to different organizations, that's where the clean accounting goes awry. The projects may be valid but there will always be "handling charges" that get paid out when the cash reaches the final destination.
     
  15. G8tas

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    That's some Donald Rumsfeld logic right there that led us on a wild goose chase. Sad that you guys haven't learned
     
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  16. G8trGr8t

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    There is.
    They are called IGs
    Established by congress
    Publishes report and recommendations for Congress to act

    News alert - someone thought of this long ago
     
  17. G8trGr8t

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    ID is required when you register.
    Every AG and LEO and conspiracy nut in MAGA looked for fraud. Every federal agency looked.
    0 - 66
    How can any rational person even consider it happened
     
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  18. VAg8r1

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    Christopher Cox, the Director of CISA in the first Trump Administration characterized the 2020 election as the most secure in history. Not surprisingly he was canned by Trump after he made that statement.
    Trump Fires Election Security Director Who Corrected Voter Fraud Disinformation
     
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  19. l_boy

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    Man you’ve really become radicalized.
     
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