War in Ukraine

He lied about Bucha and should have left that country. Do you believe someone who went by "Coach Red Pill" over any reputable journalist?

 

So what was the lie about the Bucha massacre in your opinion? Trust me bro, I know 10-50 times more than you about this subject. I heard about the massacre on a Sunday morning and debunked it in 10 minutes.

I would believe Gonzalo Lira over any "reputable journalist" you might name

 

Yeah man, an Andrew Tate-type clown is better primary source than than the BBC and most European countries. Coach Red Pill is basically the new Pulitzer I hear

 

Bottom line, the Bucha massacre was carried out by Ukraine

 

Ah yes, they killed their own people. Of course they did. How could I be so stupid? I mean Coach Red Pill said it

 

We will get to see the U.S. reputation (what's left of it) tarnished by the atrocities committed by Russia in our service. Nice.

 

1. I don’t know what was said or agreed to in the meeting so it’s word against word and both have reason to lie. The truth, like most cases, is probably somewhere in the middle.

2. I actually think Ukraine would be smart to negotiate mineral rights now if it includes the eastern regions of Ukraine. By the time the war is completely settled and they get around to extracting mineral rights a new administration or Congress could undo a bad one-sided deal.

3. Rubio just said Trump wants Z to be a partner. Complete and utter BS. These are not equal partner negotiations, just strong-arm tactics and exclusionary deal making with the enemy. That’s anything but a partnership.

 

But we'll get some minerals.

From Ukraine.

Because we need them. A lot more than Ukraine does.

It's not fair. To us.

 

Little Marco.

 

Back to the actual war going on in Ukraine. Russia is getting desperate, sending wounded soldiers back into battle on crutches, if necessary. Some get a full month off to recuperate from their crippling injuries, and some get sent back to the front as soon as their surgery anesthesia wears off. Basically, Russia must force its soldiers to fight until they are dead to have any chance of winning this war. The only ticket out is to be fitted for a body bag.

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/02/22/europe/russia-wounded-troops-frontline-latam-intl/index.html

 

I don't know of any atrocities carried out by Russia. Happy to listen.

The real atrocities were carried out by Ukrainians:
The Bucha massacre.
Cutting off the body parts of Russian soldiers.

 

The amount of misinformation, not only in this thread, but floating around out there about this situation, forces me to seek levity.

 

Denmark reacts to intelligence that suggests that Russia might be planning to invade Europe at some point in the near future, and cranks up its defense spending by 70%.

Trump will claim that this is because of his bullying, but, as usual, he's telling lies. Denmark was already spending more than the 2% of GDP that they were obligated to by NATO in 2024 (nice work, Biden!).

This NATO ally will ‘buy, buy, buy’ more weapons as quickly as possible after intelligence report says Russia may start a war in Europe in a few years

They do seem motivated buyers.

 

Of course, with an anti-European isolationist coward in the U.S. White House, if Russia does want to invade Europe, they have a four-year timeline to get it done.

 

Russia doesn’t have the ability to do that, and certainly not in the next four years.

That being said, it remains to be seen how far these far right movements in Europe will go. Germany’s just doubled it vote total today. I’m sure Putin and Krasnov are loving it.

 

Love to see how the Russian simps spin zelensky volunteering to step down as a condition of the negotiations. Hard to claim “DICTATOR!!!!” now huh? Whereas Russia jailed their opposition leader.

 

Other things I bet you believe:
Chemtrails are poisoning us
5G is out to get you
Nanochips in vaccines

 

What Putin might be counting on is an inability for the various NATO countries to work together in a cohesive way, and an unwillingness, when push comes to shove, to put their own children on the line to save another country. I agree, it is somewhat far-fetched for that timeline. Europe has been heavily dependent on the U.S. for defense for decades, and now a U.S. president is removing that sense of security. I could see Russia increasing its state-sponsored acts of malice against Europe's infrastructure, and then smuggling in terrorists with weapons like they did in eastern Ukraine.

 

The war started because Ukraine was killing its own people, the Russian-speakers

From Moon of Alabama:

The Bucha Provocation
The Bucha 'Russian' atrocities propaganda onslaught may have worked well in the 'west' but it lacks evidence that Russia had anything to do with it.

The former Indian ambassador M.K. Bhadrakumar calls it an outright fake:

An indignant Moscow has angrily demanded a United Nations Security Council meeting on Monday over the allegations of atrocities by Russian troops in areas around Kiev through the past month. Prima facie, this allegation is fake news but it can mould misperceptions by the time it gets exposed as disinformation.

A Tass report says: “The Russian Defense Ministry said on Sunday that the Russian Armed Forces had left Bucha, located in the Kiev region, on March 30, while “the evidence of crimes” emerged only four days later, after Ukrainian Security Service officers had arrived in the town. The ministry stressed that on March 31, the town’s Mayor Anatoly Fedoruk had confirmed in a video address that there were no Russian troops in Bucha. However, he did not say a word about civilians shot dead on the street with their hands tied behind their backs.”

Even more surprising is that within minutes of the “breaking news”, western leaders — heads of state, foreign ministers, former politicians — popped up with statements duly kept ready and only based on the videos, seconds-long videos and a clutch of photos, ready to pour accusations. No expert opinion was sought, no forensic work was done, no opportunity given to the accused to be heard.
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/04/the-bucha-provocation.html

The timeline
Mar 30 - Russian troops leave Bucha

Mar 31 - Mayor of Bucha announces town 'has been "liberated," makes no mention of atrocities.

Apr 1/2 - Azov Nazis enter Bucha

April 3- Ukrainian Ministry of Defence publishes video of 'Russian' atrocities

You and every Too Hot Democrat believed the lie that Russians committed the Bucha atrocities. Note none of the bodies showed any signs of decomposition.

The Azov Nazis/Ukrainian security forces likely killed Russian-speakers who had gotten too friendly with Russian troops, according to the American journalist Gonzalo Lira, who was living in Kharkov.

So the next time you call someone a "simp," remember the phrase "confession by projection."