Musk wants to give everyone a $5000 refund check

Everyone who works pays taxes directly to the federal government. And everyone else pays taxes indirectly to the federal government. The only way to not pay taxes would be to never work and never spend any money.

 

What the hell are you talking about. First everyone does not work and second everyone that works does NOT pay taxes on that money. Not sure what planet you came from but here on earth people work under the table and never pay taxes on the income they make. It happens a lot in the construction business. Not sure what you mean by pays indirectly to the federal government but that would not be income tax.

 

Have you not heard of payroll taxes? Everyone who works pays them. And everyone else indirectly pays taxes simply by engaging in economic activity. Taxes are passed on to the customer in the form of higher prices.

 

They are talking about income taxes when they say taxpayers most times. Not someone who buys a shirt and pays taxes on it. Also there are a lot of people that work for pay and do not report it or pay taxes on it. It is called working "under the table"
I have known people who did that most of their life and do not qualify for social security because they didn't pay in enough years.

 

I don't care what 'they' are talking about. All Americans pay taxes one way or another. And income taxes are less than half the total taxes the federal government takes in.

 

I’ll take my $5k

 

Incorrect, again. This is the same BS you spewed in another tax discussion. Go to any of about 100 tax policy/revenue websites and look at the breakdown. Income tax represents over half of what the govt collects.

 

I read that Elon was at some cpac event and was wielding a chainsaw.

We really are in Idiocracy, aren’t we?
Similar to President Camacho wielding a machine gun.

 

Yes, yes we are.

 

No, it's correct. Income tax revenues made up about 49% of total federal revenues in 2024.

 

For some reason you seem obsessed with a Native American woman who died over 400 years ago .

 

Musk understands how GDP works. If you decrease G in the equation, then GDP decreases. If you give the amount of G decreased back to the tax payer, then you have not shrunk GDP. G is still the same without all the drawbacks and inefficiencies involved with government.

There is another side of this too. If every voter gets the spoils from reducing the size of government, then you are giving a huge check to the people who will vote for the next President, Congress, etc. That is a smart move to counteract all the people who will be mad about losing their government jobs.

 

FYI. Given that 2017 was before the Trump/Republican tax cuts became effective, the totals from personal and corporate income taxes may actually be lower today:

 

The only way to reduce government spending enough to give people a significant refund would be to reduce benefits like SS and Medicare. So you'd be reducing a person's SS check every month to give them a one time refund.

And any actual waste and fraud they eliminate (which won't be much), should go to deficit reduction, don't you think?

 

Relax, Musk cannot be President,

Unless………

He finds the guy who made Barry’s birth certificate.

 

You are a complete idiot. I gotta give you credit though. In the face of statistics you hold your ground. keep fighting the fight!

 

Income tax revenues made up about 49% of total federal revenues in 2024.

 

I thought this was fake. It is not fake. Lol. We really are in Idiocracy. Amazing

 

I'm willing to bet that there will never be a mass mailing of $5,000 checks or alternatively a receipt of $5,000 direct deposits. The probability of receiving a Musk check is roughly the same as was the probability of becoming a wealthy real estate investor after completing courses at Trump University.