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Judge orders DOJ to appear at hearing on Adams Pardon

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by G8trGr8t, Feb 18, 2025 at 5:01 PM.

  1. G8trGr8t

    G8trGr8t Premium Member

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    Federal judge calling the admin to court to explain how the edit my error (dropping of charges) is legal and not a quid pro quo as announced on national tv by the border czar.

    Judge orders hearing over Trump DOJ's bid to toss Eric Adams corruption case

    NEW YORK (Reuters) -A federal judge on Tuesday ordered U.S. prosecutors to appear in court this week to address why they are seeking to dismiss criminal charges filed against New York Mayor Eric Adams.

    The hearing comes after a Justice Department official appointed by Republican President Donald Trump ordered prosecutors to seek dismissal of the case. At least a half-dozen federal prosecutors resigned rather than obey the order, but other officials eventually formally sought dismissal on Friday.

    U.S. District Judge Dale Ho, an appointee of former Democratic President Joe Biden, ordered the parties to appear at a hearing on Wednesday at 2 p.m. EST (1900 GMT) to discuss the matter.

    Four deputies to Adams plan to resign in a withdrawal of support for the embattled Democratic mayor, who has warmed to Trump since being indicted last year on charges of taking bribes from Turkish officials. He has pleaded not guilty.
     
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  2. G8trGr8t

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    As Trump shakes Justice Department, deeply conservative prosecutors head for exits | Reuters

    Sassoon, 38, a member of the deeply conservative Federalist Society who was installed as acting U.S. Attorney in Manhattan on January 21, was one of at least a half-dozen Justice Department employees to resign over the Adams order.

    Another who stepped down, according to a source familiar with the matter, Assistant U.S. Attorney Hagan Scotten, also had a conservative legal pedigree, having clerked for Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts and Justice Brett Kavanaugh, prior to his elevation to the high court during Trump's first term.

    Ilya Somin, a libertarian legal scholar who is also a member of the Federalist Society, said Acting Deputy Attorney General Emil Bove's directive to drop the Adams case was reflective of a shift in the nature of U.S. conservatism over the past decade that has shown less regard for the Constitution.

    "There are disagreements between those who care about rule of law values, and those who are willing to subordinate themselves to other considerations," said Somin, a law professor at George Mason University. "This sets a dangerous precedent."
     
  3. G8trGr8t

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    'Brazen criminality': Allegations of 'quid pro quo' fly after border czar’s admission

    President Donald Trump’s “border czar,” Tom Homan, appeared on Fox News with Eric Adams on Friday morning in a lighthearted yet pointed exchange. As the pair and the hosts laughed, Homan made it clear that the deal struck with the New York City mayor comes with specific obligations for Adams. After Homan’s remarks aired, some critics argued that his comments suggest an explicit — and potentially unlawful — quid pro quo.

    “If he doesn’t come through,” Homan chortled — but in what some viewed as a clear on-camera warning — “I’ll be back in New York City. And we won’t just be sitting on the couch. I’ll be in his office, up his butt, demanding, ‘Where the hell is the agreement we made?’”

    Many across the nation were stunned this week when a senior U.S. Department of Justice official ordered the acting U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York, Danielle Sassoon, to drop all federal corruption charges against Mayor Adams. The shock continued when an eight-page letter that Sassoon — a Trump appointee — had written, was released. It explained in detail what appears to be a rock-solid case against Adams, how it would be a violation of her oath not to continue the prosecution, and that the government “does not have a valid basis to seek dismissal.” It also exposed a possibly unlawful deal the feds made with the mayor.
     
  4. snatchmagnet

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    I’d say fire off another. Don’t let this deadbeat thread drown into oblivion.
    Keep firing
     
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  5. gator_jo

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    Brazen criminality has been OK for a while now.

    Trump supporters voted for it.
     
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  6. G8trGr8t

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    judge just ordered the hearing today. you don't like current info, can add you to the blocked list too. ezpz and you won't be bothered by my posts anymore. keep drinking that Kool-Aid though

    are you okay with pardoning felons to use as political leverage?

    lifetime career prosecutors, republicans, resigning rather than do something illegal doesn't give you a clue?
     
  7. OklahomaGator

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    When was Adams pardoned?
     
  8. snatchmagnet

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    I don’t block anyone. But that’s ur right for sure.
    If you and Joe chose to do that to me I would struggle, but would find a way to persevere
     
  9. dynogator

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    Tom Homan, saying the quiet part out loud. The backtracking and efforts to extricate himself from Trump's ire might be entertaining.
     
  10. VAg8r1

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    Trump didn't pardon Adams. He dropped the pending case against Adams but can still file if Adams isn't cooperative. What Trump and his DOJ are doing provides more leverage over Adams than an actual pardon although I do think in the end Trump will issue a full pardon, kind of like what he did with Manafort. He dangled a pardon to ensure that Paul Manafort remained silent before ultimately pardoning Manafort near the end of his first term.
     
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  11. G8trGr8t

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    some of us worry about more than our team and whether it impacts us personally or not.

    I didn't like Biden, too passive, not a fan. Have zero respect for djt and everything he stands for. lifetime pub, with principles. MAGA has none and lives in their own reality.

    what is bad for the minority will be bad for you when you are in the minority, but only if the other side is heartless enough to do it.. that's the diff between the dems and republicans and MAGA. Nobody before MAGA was brazen enough to tell the courts to screw off and just break all kinds of national laws giving access to people with no clearance for such access but the means and ability to data mien and depart with all of that top secret information.

    legally, those giving access to people without credentials just to save their jobs should be prosecuted for doing so. just like the prosecutor who dropped this case. those above him knew it was wrong and resigned, Republicans, lifetime prosecutors with spotless records, telling you that POTUS is breaking the law by ordering these charges dropped and you don't care...why is that?

    career republican prosecutors resigning rather than gin up charges to freeze assets of political adversaries and you don't seem to care..why?

    this is the kind of stuff, weaponizing the federal doj to prosecute/penalize political rivals for no crimes (and no that wasn't J6 or documents case, those are real crimes). That stuff happens in Bolivia or Hungary or Uzbekistan and it is happening in Washington DC now. Not forming grand juries and gaining an indictment, nope, just charge and freeze assets and let it rot on the vine.

    and you seem perfectly happy, if not even pleased, at the thought of this..baffling behavior for anyone that respects the rule of law or has empathy for fellow humans, let alone any personal standards or principles by which you live your life..don't know how to relate to that person that likely has all those qualities but ignores them in honor of a singular leader who has none of them. family members and business associates included. people that would never do business with someone like dt or want their daughters to marry someone like him seem to revere him. baffling.
     
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  12. G8trGr8t

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  13. G8trGr8t

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    amazing how something that was so blatant at the time seems like run of the mill SOP these days. actions like this would have ruined a pres. rep forever in the not so recent past.

    pubs would have ripped the WH roof off if Biden would have done this to encourage illegal testimony for Hutner.

    DT has lowered the bar so far and so many have applauded him for doing so..smdh
     
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  14. demosthenes

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    Come on now, you know very well what was meant by it. Instead of arguing semantics what is your opinion on the administration’s actions WRT to Adams? I don’t see you supporting the means but maybe you’re an “ends justify the means” guy?
     
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    I would add that even if Williams replaced Adams and became acting Mayor he would be serving less than a year. NYC's next mayoral election is this November with the term with the new mayor beginning January 1, 2026.
     
  17. OklahomaGator

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    I read that some of the charges are for upgrading airplane tickets to business or first class. I think those charges are just bogus attempts to bring more charges against him and it makes it look like he is being targeted.
    I don't know about the other charges to give an opinion.
     
  18. G8trGr8t

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    do you believe gubmnt employees making decisions involving the airline should take free biz class upgrades from said airline?

    how about suite upgrades?

    casino vouchers?

    "entertainment" expenses?

    at what point on the slope do you want to try and make a stand?
     
  19. ATLGATORFAN

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    I won’t pretend to be a criminal prosecutor, But isn’t it standard practice to downgrade or drop charges on someone because you seek/need their cooperation for something else ? I’m not saying that’s what happened here but asking out of curiosity. I mean every episode of FBI that I watch they do it:)
     
  20. OklahomaGator

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    If the employees disclose it and pay any appropriate taxes I don't have a problem with it.

    I know you travel a lot and if you get an airline upgrade from coach to business of first class do you pay any appropriate income taxes on that upgrade?