Pam Bondi Announces ‘Charges’ Against Top New York Officials For Protecting Illegal Aliens

Get em Pam!

 

An interesting battle of a Federal EO over State laws. Does a Federal EO require a state to change or violate its own law to make the Federal government’s job easier?

Should be fireworks as Bondi sues multiple states to get to SCOTUS. Illinois and now New York.

 

Supremacy Clause... beats any state "sanctuary" law.

 

Why? I thought we were in the middle of the biggest and greatest mass deportation effort the world has ever seen.

 

I am no lawyer but based on recent history it will join the list of court battles Don is losing.

 

Can you provide more legal analysis that Trump’s EO is under an existing federal law that overrides the NY green light law and therefore under Article VI, Clause 2?

 

What specific, NY state law runs counter to Federal law? Sanctuary laws do not. They simply state that local and state law enforcement will not assist in Federal immigration law enforcement. As long as the locals don't interfere, this is not unconstitutional.

State and local have zero jurisdiction on immigration. It's clearly a Fed issue per the Constitution. Trump tried something line this last time by withholding Fed funds to Sanctuary cities and states, and that was struck down in the courts. Bringing criminal charges this time? Same, tired, and wrong arguments by Trump and Bondi.

 

Sounds like a good investment of public funds... expensive legal battles going nowhere...
DOGE SAVE US

 

Its a civil case, not a criminal one (Bondi playing it up to the max by saying "filing charges"). So its literally just a food fight aka "lawfare" the thing that is good now apparently. Literally just soaking up tax payers money to pay lawyers, the good kind of government waste I guess.

 

Wrong. It's federal law taking precedence over state law. Federal EO has zero to do with these lawsuits. If these state leaders want to be tried and convicted of federal crimes, the Trump Administration Justice Department headed by Pam Bondi will be sure to oblige them.

In related news, I read yesterday that Kathy Hochul will be meeting with Trump today. I'd like to be a fly on that wall when Trump pulls a Dirty Harry moment on Hochul. "You feel lucky punk, make my day."

California is the big enchilada that should be next. The amount of accommodation and protection of illegal aliens is unprecedented in US history. While at it, slap Arizona simultaneously too, two peas in a pod.

Promises made, promises kept.

 

What are you blabbing about? Wall of words of no substance.

 

What you are saying is you can't understand what the law and common sense looks like. This should be no surprise to anyone who does understand the law and common sense. s l o cala is slow for a good reason.

 

I am talking about the law. I am not aware of a common sense override. Have a good day.

 

This is about jurisdiction among law enforcement agencies. And it's been clear, and decided for the past 45 years. The Feds have jurisdiction over things explicitly stated in the Constitution, which includes currency, international borders, crimes that cross state lines, and immigration. Local LEOs cannot enforce these laws unless there is an express written agreement between the Feds and the local LEOs granting the local LEOs authority.

Similarly, all other potential laws not explicit in the Constitution that is Federal is granted to the states, per the 10th Amendment of the Constitution. And the Feds cannot interfere with state and local LEOs unless the state/locals ask for assistance.

As long as state and local LEOs aren't actively involved in stopping the Feds, this is not against the law, nor is it unconstitutional. It's settled law, and again, the Trump admin tried to withhold Federal funding to states and cities that had sanctuary status last time, and the courts struck that down. To the contrary, when Arizona with SB1070 and several other states tried to pass their own immigration laws, the courts struck these down under the Supremacy Clause, and all the states were allowed to do is ask about a person's immigration status.

The Feds do not have authority over state and local police. If the courts continue to rule this way, Bondi is doing nothing but waste time and money. If the courts reverse decades of precedent, then it's another step towards dissolving the Constitution under Emperor Trump the I.

 

Just because the Biden Administration refused to enforce federal immigration laws, helped immensely in their election loss, doesn't mean a robust Trump Administration intent on enforcing federal immigration laws must also give up that right.

This is what you said earlier that I responded to:

"An interesting battle of a Federal EO over State laws. Does a Federal EO require a state to change or violate its own law to make the Federal government’s job easier?"

"Should be fireworks as Bondi sues multiple states to get to SCOTUS. Illinois and now New York."

It's the laws that matter. EOs not backed up later or not based on law can be undone with a stroke of the pen of the next president. Since you now agree that you meant the law, we can now move on from your EO remark.

Have a good day, Buh bye.

 

My understanding is that the Federal government cannot force states to assist with enforcing Federal law. I don't know where the line might be in the continuum from not assisting the Feds to actively trying to thwart them by doing something like tipping people off about a raid. Are marijuana laws a decent analogy here given that states have been legalizing marijuana in contradiction to Federal law?

 

Those actions are bold, daring, intriguing, and illegal according to the Supremacy Clause.
https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/R/R45323

 

Exactly. The question is can the Federal government claim NY State’s green light laws (no identification of an immigration status on a driver’s license) be overridden because it makes it more difficult for ICE to ensure they are meeting 4th Amendment requirements.

 

A New York perspective:

Hochul’s Deportation Stance Sparks Fear, Confusion | New York Focus