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SEC AD: Home Teams Must "Forfeit" Win if Fans Storm Field, Court

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by gatornharlem, Feb 13, 2025.

  1. gatornharlem

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    As the SEC reviews ways to halt field and court storming, Alabama athletic director Greg Byrne has come up with a proposal, according to a recent interview.

    "I truly believe [in forfeiting wins] — if we said that the home team, if they storm the field or the court, they're going to lose that game right then and there, that will stop it."

    - Alabama AD Greg Byrne told ESPN
    The league has seen rise in recent years of fans taking celebration to playing surfaces and Arkansas is one of them. After upsetting then No. 4 Tennessee in Razorbacks Stadium Oct. 5, fans rushed the field for the first time since defeating Texas in 2021.

    To this point of the 2024-25 athletic calendar, the SEC has collected $2.6 million from league members who don't comply with league parameters. Razorbacks athletics director Hunter Yurachek voiced his indifference about these types of fines before, encouraging fans to bask in the glory of unforgettable moments.
    Even football coach Sam Pittman doesn't mind field parties as he shared with ESPN reporter Holly Rowe following Arkansas' 19-14 win over the Volunteers.

    “That's two [field rushes] now," Pittman said. "I think the AD’s gonna be mad. Maybe he won’t be. But right now I don’t care."

    None of the fines come out of any of the institutions' pockets right away. The SEC pulls what is owed when the conferences revenue is dispersed to each athletic department.

    While Arkansas will have $500,000 missing, Vanderbilt faces a fine that is a bit more expensive. The Commodores currently owe a portion of its $850,000 fine to Alabama after rushing FirstBank Stadium following the football team's monumental upset of then No. 1 Crimson Tide under first year coach Kalen DeBoer.

    Vanderbilt has also experienced a major bounce back year in basketball. Victories over AP Top 10 wins over Kentucky and Tennessee resulted in court storms.

    See full article at SI
     
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  2. Gatorrick22

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    Make it a million dollar fine and the home teams will start adding cops... arresting the fans to stop the idiocy. Problem solved.
     
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  3. tigator2019

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    In my head--- UF
    Stupid.
     
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  4. archigator_96

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    I'm not even sure a million would do it. That kind of money gets thrown around left and right at most programs. It would have to be an amount that would cripple an athletic department. Like the buy out on the current coaches contract.
     
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  5. Brodeur

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    I don't like forfeits, but schools need to be properly motivated to prevent these incidents.

    I'd tell a school that if you allow a court/field storm against an opponent before the opponent can get out, your next scheduled home game against that opponent will be moved off your campus. That'll put an end to it.
     
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  6. sierragator

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    Other ways to address the issue.
     
  7. Agator88

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    Does a 2-6 Vandy care about a forfeit if they beat UGA? Just a hypothetical situation, but isn't this just a way of rewarding the team that lost? Hey they were 10-1 that Vandy loss technically doesn't count and shouldn't hurt their playoff resume. Conspiracy haha
     
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  8. Spurffelbow833

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    No. No. No. There is no way any team deserves to have a historic win stolen from them by the War on Fun because their fans got too excited. At some point, you have got to separate what the players and coaches can control from what they cannot. Someone please kick this asshole in the nuts. As if Alabama will ever be in a position to suffer from this rule if it becomes official. Enough is enough with the draconian rules!
     
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  9. Spurffelbow833

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    Only if it's a permanent opponent. With these 20 team superconferences evolving, it might work for basketball, but it'll be years in between meetings for most of your conference opponents in football.
     
  10. Spurffelbow833

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    Exactly. You are breaking the law when you storm the field. It's trespassing. They can make the fine for doing it as stiff as they want to. It makes no logical sense to punish the owners of the property and the people who have rightful use of it for the actions of individuals who do not.

    If you make an idiotic rule like this, what's to stop the visiting fans from storming the field and by rule causing the home team to forfeit? Rules are rules! In an SEC game (ESPECIALLY an Iron Bowl, Greg), there will be enough visiting fans from any school to trigger the rule if they storm the field.
     
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  11. GatorRade

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    Right here
    I actually like the idea. You are, quite reasonably, focused on what seems to be an excessive penalty to one party for the transgression of another, but there is another way to look at this.

    First, why does anyone storm the court? Because they love the win. If the win would cease to be due to a celebration, no one would do the celebration. The same reason no one bear hugs their grandma, no matter how excited they are to see her. Second, while it is the fans that do the storming, the field belongs to the school, and the school can’t be assumed to bear no responsibility for a breach. They are in charge of security. Look at the security at Gator games, and look at how few times Gator fans storm anything. It isn’t like DJ Lagway and coach Roberts would be personally responsible for keeping fans off the field. All schools would employ professionals for this task.

    A central requirement of good regulation is to align interests between individuals and society. This is why it’s illegal for someone to take out fire insurance on their neighbor’s house. Such an action would too severely divide the interests of the two property owners with regards to a fire, giving only upside to one neighbor and all the downside to the other. An economist once joked that instead of airbags, steering wheels should be equipped with a metal spike that shoots out into the driver’s seat whenever the car suffers a collision. Obviously such a mechanism would be truly immoral and draconian, but everyone must agree that it would put an immediate end to overly crazy driving.

    In the case of Byrne’s proposal, there is no danger of killing an innocent person, just a school’s athletic program losing a win, in a game. I know to many of us, a Gator loss feels like death, but it really is just a game. And I truly believe that if this policy were adopted, there would never be a single event that triggers the penalty at any school that cared about athletics.
     
  12. uftaipan

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    That would work.
     
  13. Spurffelbow833

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    We of all programs do not need another arrow in the quiver of the powers that be to use against us. If this rule is passed, we will get screwed by it. It's the law.
     
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  14. gbranton

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    Bama let’s make this easy, show us the spot on the doll where Vandy DIDN’T hurt you.
     
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  15. paidinfull

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    For some reason, I dont think this is a rule UF needs to be overly concerned with.
     
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  16. gators1994

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    I can’t see this ever implemented.
     
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  17. g8wayg8r

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    Just ban ALL student tickets with no refund for several games. Life-time suspension from games thereafter. Semester suspension from school is third strike.
     
  18. HobeGator

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    3 year rule. You're allowed to storm once every 3 years. If Vandy wants to do it after a once a generation win against Bama - no problem. If Arkansas does it twice in a year, they get the penalty.
     
  19. pogba

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    how about let's completely ruin college athletics and make it a sterile product. If Alabama can't win, no one can celebrate
     
  20. BillyBall89

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    No.
    If the team won it on the court, that's the result of the game. Im already not a fan of penalizing a team for fans throwing crap on the field, though I understand the incentive structure. But outright taking a win from players who won it because of what the fans do is too far. Nothing about the problem justifies a response of that level except to Ivory-tower wine and cheese idiots.
     
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