Paraphrasing Danny Weurffel when he fakes an injury: "Football is a game of deception. This is no different"
Deception like press man and backing into zone or blitzing sure. Falling on the ground to stop the clock is straight up cheating. Sure they all do it but it should be eliminated. Stopping a tempo offense by faking injury just says you can’t stop it with skill, so cheat.
Shane Matthews stated he's stolen signs (during the game) going back to high school. He said they did it at Florida. Oh my goodness, say it ain't so.
If you can see it, I don’t feel that’s cheating. Paying someone to film practice or banging on a trash can is dif. …. And we are the holiest of holy. I’ve never seen something so holy. We are so holy, you just won’t be able to believe it we are so holy. Nobody could ever be so holy.
I guess Danny had in mind Proverbs 26:19. "So is the man that deceiveth his neighbour, and saith, Am not I in sport?"
Maybe it's just the parent in me, but there's no such thing as a rule without a consequence. If there's no consequence, don't call it a rule. For recreational ball, pick up games, and probably even up to high school sports...I get it, play with integrity (I don't even like faking like you caught the ball when you know you didn't). Everything above that is a business, and I understand different people will draw their lines differently. Mine puts college ball on the business side of things. Use the rules and technology to manage the behavior you want to see in the game. This goes in the same category of notifying the ref that he missed some of your grabbing of the other player's jersey or letting him know that you didn't actually catch the ball. Go GATORS! ,WESGATORS
Notre-Dame haven't done sh_t since 1988. Almost 37 years ago. Maybe it's Notre-Dame that has Wake Forest's trophy case in the last 40 years.
Cocky lot? I don’t recall that in the 60s 70s and 80s. Hopeful? You bet. Our teams didn’t win any championships, but we had players who worked hard. Stevie boy played quarterback for us in 64, 65, 66. He didn’t plan on losing when he walked on the field. Cocky? Maybe. His best year was his last, and he had some really good players around him. 69? Old Ray surprised the population with that team. Cocky. Or just competent? Dickey had a rep for recruiting and he should have done it in 76. We blew a good lead against UGA THATS for sure. 79 was Pell’s first year. Hard to be cocky when you don’t win a game. One thing he did was put enormous psychological pressure the players. Subsequent years, the players really got it on but admitted that sometimes Pell had them so riled up it hurt their actual,performance…afraid to make a mistake. But..we won. Very first team meeting he called, one player showed up wearing a shirt with another university’s logo on it. He made the player take it off and said this crap will never happen again. He had to take it off immediately, in front of his teammates. The winning started the next year. 84 was his best year and he was canned in the middle of it.Lots of excellent players. Cocky? Maybe..They planned on lining up and beating up opponents and did just that. That is called competitive. After our offensive line mauled the Auburn Tigers that year, BO JACKSON said…they ( our offensive line) beat the crap out of us. Pell made $75000 a year. Hadn’t won a single championship but our determination was a champion’s, that is certain. Mediocre until 90 when Stevie returned as coach. We had Emmitt. We had a very good defense because our head coach was a defensive guy. No big offense. Old Emmitt heard we hired a head coach who loved to pass and said bye bye. We started winning big under SOS and everybody was Cocky then. You know the rest. Just because we didn’t didn’t win titles doesn’t mean we didn’t have some serious talent certain years BEFORE spurrier. It also got us scorched by UT in his first year. THAT GATORS ARE COCKY bullshit from sportswriters was just a way to put us down. We didn’t win championships but we competed hard. And the rest of the SEC was freaking jealous that we have a sweet state that people actually like to visit. Anybody vacation in Tuscaloosa? No. Just a redneck way to put us down. Nothing more. We haven’t had sustainable success since Urban. No kidding. The bile that is spewed by foes and so called Gator fans is psychotic. Want to win? You bet you’re behind. Want to trash every part of our athletic programs the minute they don’t win? Screwof. Who needs you. Not that anyone cares about women’s sports but we played our way into the softball World Series with a team predicted to be in the cellar. We brought in a world class former player as a hitting coach, and we knocked the ball out of the park. We complained that we couldn’t recruit worth crap, and we brought in one of the best classes ever. This year we brought in a championship pitching coach along with five recruits, and 3 transfers for another go at it. Moral of the story is don’t be blinded by our crappy performance on the football field for these 2 1/2 years ( and the brilliance and incompetence of Dan Mullen). We are Gators. We have pride. We may be down but we ain’t out. GO GATORS.
Not really. We were a party school in the 70s. We’ve certainly never had the arrogance of Notre Dame. By the time we were kicking ass in the 90s our fans started getting spoiled and arrogant, but then the Wake Forest reference didn’t work. All in all, a totally bullshit statement.
People say all kinds of things. Kind of like the way we romanticize the past, but here reversed. Arrogant? How would one prove that. All fans of very sport tend to be rambunctious and obnoxiously proud when their tribe is winning. Human nature.
I wouldn't deign to add to stevo's eloquence posted above. Well-crafted prose: QED And yet... I do think, and I've thought about this much over my years living here amongst The Great Orange Unwashed, that what UF has historically lacked was individuals that assumed what I will call "celebrity status" in the eyes of others in the SEC, or national perception. We had an isolated player or coach that captured the imagination of others but what we usually lacked was some amazing sports moments which enlarged our perceptions in the eyes of others. We had no coaches that assumed the national prominence of men like Neyland, or Bryant. Certainly, we who are 'the boys from old Florida' were consciously aware of how wonderful our school was, and how well our teams represented us. Yet, until the arrival as a coach of Steven Orr Spurrier, there was a lingering whiff of "unmet potential", and dismally ample space on the shelves of UF's championship case. Oh we can cite winning percentages over the decades to show that UF won much more than it lost, but we never acquired the reputation of a perennial winner in the eyes of others. In the absence of affirmation from outsiders, we simply turned inward and developed our own mythology, our own sense of innate pride in what and who we were, with our own traditions that did not demand a championship to be affirmed. "It's Great To Be A Florida Gator" was our chant, after every home contest in my sophomore year of football futility as went 0-10-1. Yet after each loss, as we spilled out of the east stands ramp which ran down to Stadium Road, we gleefully affirmed that, even in a loss, it was great to be what we were. I often remark how glad I am to have been a Gator before it was easy to do so, before we became known as a winner, and as a fierce competitor regardless of the sport. We have that now. You youngsters can revel in that but know that you stand on the shoulders of those that, like pillars in a great temple, stood faithfully supporting the roof of Florida Fandom, waiting for the excitement to fill the temple.
Yes, we offered scooters when everyone else were getting real cars and nice houses to live in. But somehow we're the same? STOP THE INSANITY, people... Just like in laws, there are DEGREES OF GUILT involved that really do matter in this case. Our players bought their own scooters. Now, as for the present... again, we are not in the big leagues by any stretch. Stop with these misguided claims.
From what I remember there in the Pell Era, the folks who thought us arrogant were the hardcore SEC teams. To them, we were "different." We'd wear t-shirts, jeans and, yes, jorts and flip flops to the games, and many of us had the longish hair that was the style of the period. It was normal, as many of us grew up near the beach. In spite of everything north of I-4, Florida's been something of a polyglot state with the influx of millions of northern transplants, and this differentiated us from the classic SEC fan who wore white shirts and slacks (often with a tie), wearing the ubiquitous "Bama Bangs," which many of us made fun of. Their girls wore nice dresses and even prom dresses, particularly at Ole Miss (for which all Florida guys were eternally grateful), while our girls wore Daisy Dukes and halter tops (also great!). For them, we were all Yankees (doesn't matter if many of our ancestors fought for the Confederacy at the Battle of Olustee), and just didn't belong. We in turned sneered at what many perceived as their backwoods yahoo ways. They saw us as undeservedly arrogant. I think in many ways, they STILL see this. For this attitude and 1984, I don't gave a tinker's damn about the SEC... Just my perspective...
From what standpoint? If we are not, who is? One source suggests our NIL is top 10. Our Assistant Coach budget could be higher. But I suspect our total organizational staff budget is going to be large compared to SEC once our huge staff of back office and assistants is finalized. Not in the big leagues by any stretch? It would be nice to add $2 million to our assistant salary budget if we retain the good guys and then hire better. But our HC has to be able to make that happen. Are we losing games because of our salary- cannot hire assistants that can manage a game clock? I doubt it. I believe we lost games last season because our staff failed the players on Defense for half a season and the QB our HC drafted was perhaps not the most capable guy to move the ball and score points. Even with DJ, we have to wait and see if the right QB can up our offensive production somewhat. https://247sports.com/longformartic...rams-ranked-by-nil-efforts-235181311/#2472529 Where Florida football ranks compared to rest of SEC in assistant coach spending
Talking about cheating... Not in legitimate recruiting. We are now, thanks to Napier, getting far better at recruiting, but we still lag in the NIL funding department because we still play by the rules... that's what I'm talking about.
