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Vance says it out loud - we are above the law

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by citygator, Feb 9, 2025 at 2:04 PM.

  1. G8trGr8t

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    I suspect it will be the fed and the courts
     
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  2. dynogator

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    Admit it, bill, you feel a tiny flicker of unease at some of the things Trump and Musk are doing. You can't be putting complete faith in a politician and a billionaire to be acting solely for the benefit of the country.
     
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  3. dangolegators

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    Due to the incompetence and corruption of the Trump administration it will likely happen and I hope it does. Ultimately it may be our only hope for a regime change.
     
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  5. vegasfox

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    Robert Barnes and JD Vance talk regularly. Barnes explains how trump might go full Andrew Jackson
    Robert Barnes: Trump Could ‘Go Full Andrew Jackson’ and Ignore Interference from Activist Judges

    "The district court judge in Hawaii, who was a fellow law graduate of Harvard law school with former President Obama – and, in fact, Obama was in Hawaii yesterday before the decision was issued, so some people have speculated on the coincidence of that. But he issued a decision that blocks the ability of anybody to enforce the order anywhere,” Barnes said. “So he went beyond just the district of Hawaii. He said no state can enforce it. Nobody in any part of the country can enforce it. Nobody anywhere in the administration can enforce it. He issued what’s called a nationwide injunction, and it precludes any application of the order, pretty much, on any aspect of the order, pretty much, until there’s further review.”

    “His basis for doing so was an extraordinary interpretation of the right to travel and the freedom of association, which before, has only been associated with U.S. citizens,” Barnes continued. “Every court decision in the 200 years prior to this has said that people who are not citizens of the United States, who are not present within the United States, have no First Amendment constitutional rights. The Constitution doesn’t extend internationally to anybody, anywhere, anyplace, at any time. Instead, this judge said it did, as long as you had a university here who wanted to assert, quote-unquote, the foreigner’s rights, or you had some physical person here. In this case, it was one of the leading Muslim imams in Hawaii; he wants to bring over various family and friends from the Middle East.”

    “The Hawaii judge’s decision says he has a First Amendment constitutional right to do so because he’s Muslim. It was one of the most extraordinary interpretations of the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment ever given, which is that because these are Muslim countries that were banned where the issue of terror arises from that that meant they had a special right to access the country and visit the country,” he said.

    “As long as there is somebody here that wants them here, no president can ever preclude them from coming here. He basically gave First Amendment rights to everybody around the world and gave special preferences to people who are Muslim under his interpretation of the First Amendment,” Barnes summarized."
     
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  6. 92gator

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    Lol!

    Try "JD Vance threatening to do what Doh! Biden repeatedly did."

    Not saying it's right, but bruh... coming from a cat who was all pom poms when his guy was wiping his ass with inconvenient Judicial rulings, falls somewhere between 'rings hollow' and 'that's rich as hell." Favoring the latter, I should add.
     
  7. 92gator

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    LMAO BRO!!!

    20 million terrorist/ gang banger/ sex trafficking fenty mules who paraded in here while Doh! Biden selectively chose to wipe his ass with his duty to secure the border, instead rolling out the red carpet after broadcasting an open invitation to the world, scream:

    "Hello there [sancuary] Citygator!!! Over here, yo!"
     
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  8. citygator

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    Biden ignored zero Judicial rulings. Zero.
     
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  9. 92gator

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    ^^^huh...wonder why your loser party is picking their nuts on the sideline....
     
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  10. citygator

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    Fentanyl comes in through ports of entry not via immigrants. Immigration and asylum are inconveniently (for you) legal. It's not a crime to come to the US and apply for asylum. The border crossing is a misdemeanor akin to speeding. Nothing you do will change that. Trump will lose every challenge to that. He'll need to change the law. He wasnt willing to do that last year with the bi-partisan bill. I doubt he gets one democrat to partner now.
     
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  11. citygator

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    Yawn. So you have no response to a ruling he ignored? Ok. Scurry away.
     
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  12. rock8591

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    Clickbait misleading thread title; I clicked it and read the post, am not surprised.
     
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  13. 92gator

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  14. citygator

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    Did you read it? Or just link it? Your link, as biased as it is against loan forgiveness, makes it clear that the Supreme Court limited his ability to forgive loans throwing out a broad plan for $400B. He didnt ignore the ruling. He revised his actions to comply with the lawsuit. His original action wasnt within his power according to the Trump toadies. Yet he still complied.
     
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  15. tilly

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    Wow.
     
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  16. Gators1983

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    Well the courts just told him for the second time to release all of the funds that he had previously frozen, not some of them. This is the moment of truth…do they obey the order, or continue to defy it?
     
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  17. G8trGr8t

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    they are going to continue to defy it.

    The question will be will they file appeals or just say make me and see what happens
     
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  18. Gators1983

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    I mean, if there’s no longer enforceable checks and balances I don’t see there being a need for a congress in the future then either. Will be duly interesting to see if our current institutions hold
     
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  19. G8trGr8t

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    people thought it was joke when he was labled a threat to democracy.

    will they wake up before Musk, the muskettes, and his AI have control of the weapons systems of the country and the fed? It may already be too late. Reality is nobody knows what access they ahve bui;lt in and what information they ahve taken.

    These are serious federal crimes being committed, endorsed by the AG of Washington DC, who is a J6 participant himself, and cheered on by a rabid group of brownshirt equivalents
     
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  20. slocala

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    Keep breaking stuff.

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