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The liberal media calling out corruption and turning on the liberals

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by TheGator, Feb 9, 2025 at 2:53 PM.

  1. AgingGator

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    Thank you Contra. There is one thing worse than arguing with ignorant liberals who can’t see or just won’t that inflation under Biden was about 20%, and that is watching any Philly team win a championship.

    To VA and Jo, yes you two, I was referring to cumulative. The only reason I can possibly think of why you would think I was referring to one annual number in my post is because you just can’t stand to have it pointed out to you that Bidenomics was an disaster and that irreparable long term harm was done to the economy. Notice that I do say Bidenomics and not Biden because we all know now that Ole Joe was way too infirm to be calling any of the shots.
     
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  2. G8trGr8t

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    Then get qualified people with security clearance and without a political agenda to do the auditing. Don't tell ne how much politico got and refuse to tell me how much fox got. These "audits" are nothing more than retribution and you know it
     
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  3. ridgetop

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    Ok.. where the 7 audits the DoD has failed since 2018 also retribution? At some point do you think we should hold our govt accountable? Are you so blinded by your hate of Trump that you are ok with the DoD not being able to account for their 4 trillion dollar budget?
     
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  4. jjgator55

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    I won’t argue with you about the rate of inflation, but if you want to place blame it has to go to both administrations. The pandemic triggered a recession so both the Trump and Biden administrations responded with multiple rounds of stimulus aid. They lowered interest rates and pumped money into the economy to avoid another crash like the one under Bush.

    So when the downturn of the economy stopped, and the job market stabilized, inflation started to rise because the stimulus was causing the economy to heat up. People were spending more but the pandemic caused a shortage of goods causing prices to rise. So interest rates increased in order to cool off the economy and slowing the rate of inflation.

    Inflation is down and interest interest rates a beginning to drop, but voters were mad anyway and voted for the guy who mismanaged the pandemic the last time. So here we are with another pandemic on the horizon, and the same idiot who mismanaged things so badly last time ready to do the same thing.
     
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  5. G8trGr8t

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    How much did Fox News get paid by the gubmnt?
     
  6. ridgetop

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    I don’t know.. but if they get audited or told to have an audit I sincerely hope that 1. They do it
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    2. They can account for their money they took.
    Is that not fair? What the hell is your complaint? The DoD has not turned in one audit that they have passed.. back to 2018. This isn’t just under Trump. We are talking close to a decade of the DoD not being able to account for their 4 trillion dollars they are given.
     
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  7. ridgetop

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    Are you referring to the fact that most federal governments will
    Pay subscription fees to news organizations so they can easily monitor the national news? This has been going on forever and happens with every big news organizations.
    Or do you have information that Fox News is taking USAID money? If so. Share it. If not let’s try to stay on topic
     
  8. G8trGr8t

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    Why do you know how much politico got and not fox. Can you trust the source that only provides part of the information?
     
  9. ridgetop

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    What the hell ARE you talking about? I haven’t mentioned politico. I haven’t brought up Fox News. If you have bone to pick on that score move on to someone less. All I have said is that the DoD has been told to provide an audit every year since 2018. They have yet to pass a single audit and their excuse is.. oops. See are to big, too antiquated, to unorganized. Which would not fly if it was a civilian making the same claims.
    I don’t know why your panties are so knotted up or why you jumped into a conversation you apparently hadn’t read the previous posts to understand the context of.. but grab some coffee, take a deep breath and slow down. Good grief man.
     
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  10. G8trGr8t

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    Qualify the source. Everything starts there.
    Can you trust djt and Musk to tell you the truth and provide all the data? Yes or no
    If you can, you should be able to say how much all news organizations received.
    If you can't do that but still believe them to be a reliable source you are lying to yourself
     
  11. ridgetop

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    If I type real real slow will you understand.
    I don’t like Trump. I don’t care for musk. I don’t own a Tesla.
    Neither of them are important right here right now. I can trust the FACT that DoD has yet to pass an audit since 2018. Those dates include all the years BIDEN WAS IN CHARGE!!! Do you think that is acceptable? Yes or no?
    That right there has been the entire argument that you jumped into the middle of …seemingly without reading the thread.
    As far as a source.. you really think that the pentagon is going to open their books for 4 trillion dollars to only musk and Trump. You don’t think there will be HUNDREDS of qualified auditors involved? You think musk and djt are going to sit at the table and go over the books.. just the two of them?
     
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  12. G8trGr8t

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    Do you trust DOGE and djt to do anything honestly? If not, what would an audit produce other than a flawed partisan document i tended to be used for selective retribution exactly what you see wit usaid and politico. I'm not against law and order but I am against a prosecutor and judge who are the ones committing the crimes
     
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    The DoD does do audits (or “get” audited). The problem is they keep failing them!

    I don’t think Musk and Trump are going to sit there and review, DOGS is basically a handful of techie teenagers and 20 something’s. I honestly think they are just searching keyterms in these databases. Seems pretty obvious this is in no way an audit and are just highlighting “spending the right wing really hates” more than finding actual fraud scenarios.
     
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  14. ridgetop

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    Ok
    Should the DoD have submitted and passed actual audits the last 7/8 years
    Yes or No?
     
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    A distinction needs to be made between minimizing govt waste, fraud, abuse ( a cause we should all be behind) versus an authoritarian, extra constitutional power grab. Objecting to the latter does not make one opposed to the former.
     
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    Correct.. so why are certain poster crying out loud that Trump wants them to be audit again this year. It’s supposed to happen every year. And why do certain poster not care about gross DoD mismanagement when it’s Trump wanting to find the wasteful spending. Any other president and certain posters would be all over the military complex machine spending trillions of tax payers dollars with little to no oversight… but now… well hold your horses! BUT TRUMP they cry. But but but.. like there will not be hundreds of qualified auditors going through the DoD books with DoD auditors sitting with them.
     
  17. G8trGr8t

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    Yes.
    Do you trust DOGE and djt to do an honest impartial audit and enact logical reforms?
     
  18. ridgetop

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    No doubt
    Please find anywhere that I’m ok with the former. I have yet to throw support behind Trump and Musk. I have stated and maintain that DoD needs to clean house and find the wasteful spending and they have had seven years of failed audits with zero change! None.. so yeah it’s past time.
     
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  19. ridgetop

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    Is it past time for the DoD to be accountable for the 4 trillion dollar budget that they have ( at taxpayers expense?)
    Yes or No?
     
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  20. sierragator

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    Was not directed at you specifically. However, one of the maga talking points is how any objection to the DOGE is " the roaches being afraid of the daylight".