Trump policy capping NIH indirect costs at 15% will cripple biomedical research

Trump doesn't care about any of this. Neither does Elon. But their tax cuts are on the way!

 

If this is all political, what happens when Dems take back the house, Senate and Presidency?

This is a sugar high for the pubs, but they are going to regret it soon, just like the Dems are regretting trumping BS charges on Trump. Revenge is a b****.

 

That is catastrophic for research. Wow. I know most outside higher Ed won’t understand this but this is a disaster - and before you celebrate understand that it’s not just higher Ed that will suffer. So many people do research on grants then that work rolls into the private sector. This is a huge disruption to all of that.

 

Yeah. Bummer.

 

I assume there will be legal challenges. NIH usually has to put out a call for comment or negotiated rule making of something before doing this. I’m also reading it’s retroactive which breaches active contracts. Doubt this sticks. Hope it doesn’t as it’s a disaster for everyone - especially here in Florida where there is a huge economy around medical research.

 

Who needs medical research? I suggest that we get people who have watched a Youtube video to handle all medical treatments from now on.

 

But if you are wealthy, won’t you be able to access this verboten magic?

 

the only silver lining is hopefully a lot of MAGA voters are getting their ox gored too

if this bs goes through, the amount of damage this man and his muskettes are doing to this country is tantamount to warfare against the citizens of this country

 

No. You need to pay for facilities. For example, the staff can't pay for electricity to spin a centrifuge. They can't pay for laboratory space out of pocket. They can't pay for the computing power needed for many modern research projects. They can't pay for access to libraries and for compliance with safety and legal concerns.

Basically, if this actually sticks (I doubt it does), it would push every medical researcher into other countries.

 

15% isn't nearly enough to cover the hard costs and support personnel associated with the research that gets covered under the OH. those buildings aren't cheap to build or maintain and it takes a lot of staff to keep it running. our indirect costs for an engineering and survey company are in the 45 - 50% of our costs and our infrastructure isn't nearly as complicated as a hospital. without the indirect funds to keep the lights on, there will not be anywhere to do the research

like almost everythign else like this, ajudge is going to stop this too

once all hsi cuts are tied up in the courts, they will attack the judicial branch as inhibiting making america hate again

 

You are comparing apples and suspension bridges here. The "overhead" component of a standard charity is not even vaguely the same thing as indirect costs of research.

No, that is not how this works either. This isn't for janitorial services and building maintenance. And no, the medical facilities are generally not paid for with taxpayers expenses. Most of the facilities budgets for even state schools (not even bringing up that much of this research is done at private institutions) comes in the form of grants and loans, much of which against future revenue from...medical research.

You can bet none of them will because they won't have the equipment and facilities that they need. Instead, it will go to a country that isn't run stupidly.

If you want to actually understand the topic, here is a quick summary:

https://www.aamc.org/what-we-do/mission-areas/medical-research/facilities-administrative-costs

 

"Etc." is a pretty key element of that sentence. Building maintenance is a part of it. Support staff is a part of it. But there is a lot covered in the "etc." Support equipment, computing power, utilities, safety equipment, safety procedures, patient monitoring and safety, and that much longer list doesn't include all of it, so etc.