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Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorTheo, Feb 1, 2025.

  1. gator_jo

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    Buddy, are you really asking what this means?

    The findings, including unflinching characterizations of furtive interactions between Trump associates and Russian operatives....
     
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  2. GatorFanCF

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    The more vague the argument “associates” the more latitude is permitted for the fear mongering. Beware, beware, Trumpistas, MAGAts, and their dreaded associates will come after you in the dead of night and check between your legs to make sure you can use the correct public restroom. Send more money now to “Stop the Trumpettes,” a tax deductible 501(c)3
     
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  3. coleg

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    Try the WSJ (right leaning) or any source other than the lying right wing echo chambers and get back with a serious critique sport.
     
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  4. toprowgator

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    Buddy, you won't answer my question. Did the Trump campaign collude with Russia and did the FBI/DOJ know the dossier had holes in it? Simple question.
     
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  5. toprowgator

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    Care to have a retraction contest? I'll start with the NYT. Pick your starting point. All the left does is lie. There's a difference between being biased and lying. Just ask Sunny Hostin of The View.
     
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  6. mdgator05

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    In this case, the head of his Presidential Campaign as well as his Assistant and a set of advisors.

    Yes and yes.
     
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  7. toprowgator

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    So why wasn't Trump prosecuted and why was the dossier still presented to the FISA court?
     
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  8. mdgator05

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    Because collusion isn't a crime. You need to prove conspiracy. They did not prove that Trump himself was part of such a conspiracy. Multiple members of his campaign were successfully prosecuted (including the Campaign Manager and his Assistant) before the ones that didn't talk were given pardons.

    They utilized it to strengthen their applications to the FISA court to surveil Carter Page, who was not prosecuted.
     
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  9. vaxcardinal

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    Do you not know how chatgpt works? You have to tell him what question to ask so that he can cut and paste the answer back here.
     
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  10. slayerxing

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    are you kidding me? You think the “right” tells the truth? That only the left lies? Are you serious right now?
     
  11. coleg

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    Poster has been shown that the felon's team colluded with the Russians and were prosecuted for it. But now instead of admitting his claim was wrong, moved the goalposts to "So why wasn't Trump prosecuted" as if the SC doesn't cover for him. Just stop the deflecting. It was proven in court that it happened.
     
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  12. gator_jo

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    That poster is but a different flavor of shouting "FAKE NEWS!" when he dislikes the facts.

    Degrades the concept of honest discourse.
     
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  13. toprowgator

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    Wow. This theory will be crumbling soon.
     
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  14. toprowgator

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    I believe we were discussing media outlets.
     
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  15. toprowgator

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    The only people deflecting are you guys. Trump's campaign was not found guilty of collusion and there never should have been an investigation in the first place. More truths will be coming out soon.
     
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  16. mdgator05

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    It isn't a "theory." Those are each factual statements. Collusion is not a crime under federal statutes. Federal prosecutors did not prove that Trump himself was party to a conspiracy, which is why he was not prosecuted but his senior staff was. He granted pardons to the staff that didn't talk with prosecutors (or who did but lied to them according to the judge). And all of this happened while he was President.

    Again, this seems to be trying to shape reality to match your emotional needs rather than observing what actually happened.
     
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  17. toprowgator

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    Yet all you have is the ability to copy and paste and spew talking points. You then never respond when challenged. What flavor would that make you?
     
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  18. toprowgator

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    Oh, it involves emotional needs alright ...

    As I stated, there's more coming. As if it's not already easy to connect the dots.
     
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  19. mdgator05

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    Again, collusion is not a crime. As such, it would not be possible to be found guilty of it. Paul Manafort and Gates, Manafort's assistant and Assistant Campaign Manager, were charged with conspiracy.
     
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  20. mdgator05

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    I am sorry that facts didn't support your emotional needs. However, the promise of future alternative facts to do so is not compelling.
     
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