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Looming Gubmnt Shutdown

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by G8trGr8t, Feb 3, 2025.

  1. G8trGr8t

    G8trGr8t Premium Member

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    If this is correct, I don't see a way that the dems can approve a budget with the cuts to the safety net that are being proposed. Homelessness, hunger, crime will all increase with these cuts. Good for private prison companies and LEO related enterprises. Once they're locked up, they can't vote anymore..win. win.. Can't help but think that a shutdown is in the near future and it isn't going to be a short one.

    Can the pubs push through a spending bill without any dem support?

    Have to think this is going to be a bridge too far for many pubs also but the leadership seems to be taking the loons seriously.

    targets Medicaid and SNAP for massive cuts. cut hundreds of billions from social programs and spend it on military and deportations; sounds like a good long term productive strategy :rolleyes:

    Hard-liner rebellion forces House GOP leaders to scramble for deeper cuts

    House Republican leaders want committees to land deeper spending cuts in their party-line bill to enact President Donald Trump’s domestic agenda — scrambling to address a rebellion from key Budget Committee members who think Speaker Mike Johnson’s initial plan falls short. Key hard-liners and others on the Budget panel are pushing to outline at least $1 trillion in spending cuts in the blueprint that the committee is supposed to debate this week, according to three people familiar with the private discussions who were granted anonymity to describe them.

    Last week, those panel members told senior Republicans they would not vote for a draft budget blueprint similar to what Johnson and committee chairs outlined during a closed-door meeting at the House GOP retreat in Florida, the three people said.

    That initial blueprint included more than $300 billion in spending cuts but added $325 billion in new spending for defense, border security and deportation operations. Johnson argued Republicans could add more cuts later but needed to quickly advance the budget resolution to keep the sweeping domestic policy package on track.
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    For example, the Energy and Commerce Committee would need to increase its planned $200 billion minimum in cuts, which almost assuredly will trigger tough conversations around Medicaid. The Agriculture Committee, which had outlined a minimum target of $50 billion in cuts during the final retreat meeting, would now need to cut $150 billion. That would mean deeper impacts on the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program that helps feed more than 40 million low-income Americans.
     
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  2. channingcrowderhungry

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    Does any normal person from either party even want increased military spending at this point?

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  3. CHFG8R

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    I'd like better. I think our defense industries and procurement process are severely broken. Needless to say, the idiot in chief will do nothing to rectify this because it would actually require brains and effort.

    Personally, I'd like to see some of the NATO/Japan/Korean companies folded in to create some competition. Never happen, but we need to do better than 2.5 companies being the only ones who can create modern weaponry. Just look at WWII and how vibrant the defense community was then and how stale and bloated it is now. Think of the awesome aircraft (Corsair, which flew until Vietnam) we never get if we take the one-size-fits-all F-35 approach.
     
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  4. citygator

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    We have central america ally canals to recover, allies' icy territories to threaten, and border allies to intimidate. That takes a giant giant red bar.
     
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  5. sierragator

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    If the gop wants to burn it all down, let them. Here's a match.
     
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  6. dynogator

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    Just enlist all those medicaid and SNAP recipients in the military. Problem solved!
     
  7. G8trGr8t

    G8trGr8t Premium Member

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    they are going to go pick our fruits and vegetables, plant our landscapes, build our roads, mow our yards, clean our bedpans, wash our dishes, and build our houses.

    once all that EZ money stops they are going to gain a work ethic and become responsible hard working productive people. all their ailments and challenges are going to automatically disappear...blessed be the skidmark and his brilliance
     
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  8. vaxcardinal

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    I have no issues with a shutdown, i'm still getting paid
     
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  9. G8trGr8t

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    that me first, too bad for you approach to it all seems to be the type of me first attitude that musk says he is trying to scrub yet that attitude will likely be the one that is rewarded if it comes with the appropriate bended knee.
     
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  10. slocala

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    I am skeptical of anything that has China and Russia listed. Who knows if any of it is correct when they have practically slave labor producing their war machine.
     
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  11. slocala

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    Congress has been laying low. They don’t want to pop their head up and get lobbed off by the Musk meat grinder.
     
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  12. PITBOSS

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    This is a big increase. If half of that goes to defense it would be roughly a 20% jump.

    “added $325 billion in new spending for defense, border security and deportation operations.”
     
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  13. G8trGr8t

    G8trGr8t Premium Member

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    they control the cash, or at least they used to
     
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    Per multiple news outlets today: Republican infighting is causing problems with budget negotiations.

    Some highlights: The House wants one large budget bill, but the Senate seems to want two. They also cannot agree on how much federal spending to cut over the 10-year forecast. Tax cuts and defense increases are definitely on the table. House legislators are concerned they will put much time and effort into crafting a bill that $Trump may not back at last minute. But their time is running short; if the House can't get a budget package together soon, the Senate will move forward crafting their own.

    Enjoy the circus!

    < MARCH 14 - GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN DAY >
     
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  15. dangolegators

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    With that attitude you sound like the kind of government employee Musk is looking to fire.
     
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  16. thomadm

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    Defense needs a bigger budget, we are out of $. A lot of the defense budget is being spent on keeping old equipment and software running. These costs are going to increase a lot soon unless we provide industry with R&D $. No one is building new ships, planes, drones or tanks fast enough and we are now behind China in naval power.

    A lot of the budget was set on the war on terror, which isnt a priority anymore. Defeating an Arab with Soviet leftover weapons vs China's highly technology driven force is apples to oranges.

    The border and deportations don't require that much $, if at all. Wall materials are paid for already and ICE already has their budget set for this year.
     
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  17. G8trGr8t

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    just waiting on Elon to tell them what to agree on and then blame the dems no matter how outrageous it is.

    hope I'm wrong, wondering how to profit from it with leverage..
     
  18. G8trGr8t

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    you think Musk is cutting for efficiency reasons? you funny..
     
  19. G8trGr8t

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    can't militarize on the domestic side to be able to use them for enforcemnt domestically when we have to declare martial law because them crazies from Gaza attaked us.

    Hire 50k proud boys prototypes for border patrol and presto, whammo, you have your own private security force with cross-state authority to enforce whatever crap I want to think of...don't worry about those background checks, we have friends to take care of those.