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War in Ukraine

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by PITBOSS, Jan 21, 2022.

  1. duggers_dad

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    But now, everywhere you look, for the first time the omerta has been lifted: outlets are openly—albeit still in hushed tones—admitting that Ukraine not only faces some vague ‘defeat’, but total capitulation to Russia.

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  2. uftaipan

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    Not sure where this is going, but Stalin and Mao absolutely started wars outside their own borders. To a lesser extent (because Cuba never was and never will be a great power), Castro was involved in foreign adventures as well. Grenada and Angola come to mind immediately.
     
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  3. chemgator

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    I was talking about major wars, ones that could possibly result in defeat. I am not counting aggressive military action with no chance of defeat. Both China and Russia did get involved in the Korean War, with the Chinese supplying massive numbers of troops, but the war was not primarily between China and the U.S., so the U.S. was unlikely to drive to Beijing had it been able to do so.
     
  4. okeechobee

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    You didn't say anything about wars until after I pointed out some of the most brutal dictators in the world are communist regimes with a politburo. You mentioned sham elections, opposition being jailed and killed. Pretty sure all of the examples I cited in my previous post fit that bill. You're wobbling all over the place worse than Joe Biden trying to find his way off a stage.

    Honestly, one would think we'd be less worried about Putin's imaginary goals of repatriating the Soviet bloc given Russia's ineptitude in Ukraine.
     
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  5. chemgator

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    No one else looks in the septic tank of the internet for "knowledge" (really, propaganda) like you do. And you really shouldn't open the outlet of a septic tank anyway. Long story short: your sources are crap.
     
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  6. duggers_dad

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    As long as you have ad hominem, and a keyboard, you believe you can keep Ukraine in this thing.
     
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  7. duggers_dad

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    How sad.

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  8. chemgator

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    Another founder of a pro-Russian paramilitary group bites the dust in a bombing in Moscow. Basically, he picked up most of the Wagner fighters when that group was disbanded.

    https://edition.cnn.com/2025/02/03/europe/armen-sarkisyan-bomb-death-moscow-intl-latam/index.html

     
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  9. chemgator

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    Ukraine does not need my help. They are kicking Russia's ass just fine. Go back to your septic tank and find some wisdom.
     
  10. G8trGr8t

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    Ukrainian drone strike sets Russian oil, gas plants ablaze, officials say

    A Russian oil refinery and gas processing plant went up in flames after Ukraine fired dozens of drones over the border Sunday night, officials say. Shocking video from Russia’s Astrakhan region shows a large fire engulfing the Astrakhan Gas Processing Plant, spewing embers and black clouds into the hazy night sky.

    A similar fire was reported 300 miles from the frontlines in the Volgograd region, where a fire broke out at a Lukoil oil refinery following the Ukrainian drone barrage.
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    Ukrainian officials confirmed the attack hours later, stating that the gas plant hit belonged to Russian gas giant Gazprom, and is capable of processing around 8,340 metric tons of gas condensate a day.

    The oil plant hit overnight was one of Russia’s ten largest refining facilities that processes close to 6% of the nation’s oil, Kyiv claimed.
     
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  11. G8trGr8t

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    'Key Russian, North Korean officers killed' in Ukraine's strike on Kursk Oblast command post, Zelensky says

    A Ukrainian strike on a Russian command post in Kursk Oblast killed dozens of Russian and North Korean officers, President Volodymyr Zelensky told the Associated Press on Feb. 2.

    "There was a strong operation by our military — they hit their central command post in the Kursk direction. And they lost key officers of Russia and North Korea," Zelensky said in an interview.

    The strike, allegedly conducted by Ukraine's Missile and Artillery Forces on Jan. 31, targeted the command post of Russia's Kursk group of forces in the city of Rylsk.

    "It was our military target, a fair one. There was a missile attack from our side and various types of weapons; a complex attack was launched against them," Zelensky added.
     
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  12. PITBOSS

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    Ukraine is successfully hitting more oil refineries and further away.

    Last week....
    "Late Tuesday night or early Wednesday morning, Ukrainian drones struck the Nizhny Novgorod oil refinery in Kstovo, in central Russia 520 miles from the front line in northern Ukraine."

    Ukrainian Drones Flew 500 Miles And, In A Single Strike, Damaged 5% Of Russia’s Oil Refining Capacity
     
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    "Many Americans are understandably concerned about the cost of aid to Ukraine. But they are thinking about the issue the wrong way — we should be considering the cost of Ukraine losing.

    Analysis conducted at the American Enterprise Institute has determined that Russia defeating Ukraine would cost American taxpayers an additional $808 billion over what the U.S. has planned to spend on defense in the next five years. This is about seven times more than all the aid appropriated to the Pentagon to help Ukraine since Russia’s 2022 invasion."


    The cost of defeat in Ukraine
     
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