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Tourists Should Visit England: the "Dirty Man of Europe"

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by chemgator, Aug 27, 2022.

  1. cocodrilo

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    It's ironic that the famously inventive plumber Thomas Crapper was a Brit.
     
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  2. cocodrilo

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    Really? Thank God there were no trains when Chaucer wrote The Canterbury Tales. All those stories told along the way to Canterbury. (And pilgrim pooping too, no doubt. I wonder how that went. Chaucer didn't say.)
     
  3. Gatorrick22

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    I never asked you what the British consider populist and populist-driven governance. Do they have bullet-points, tenets?.
     
  4. LimeyGator

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    I doubt you'd find consensus there.

    To me, populism is about telling folk (increasingly untruthfully, or certainly heavily embellished) that Government doesn't work for them, seeding division, sewing blame and pillorying certain others as an elite group who look after themselves. Crucially, those who are spout this also have the no-cost, no downside fix for it (which in the UK is usually, "blame foreigners") but rarely go on to detail how they can improve things. I think it all lies heavily in political blame-culture - I'm bothered about making things better not pointing fingers.

    The problem I also have is that those saying it are often hypocrites - Farage is a great example blaming "elites". He's private school educated, extremely wealthy, a man of great privilege telling voters in Sunderland who live in povery, paycheck to paycheck, that he's 'one of them' because likes a pint and a cigarette and waves the British flag a lot. Clearly it works or it wouldn't happen. I believe voters will become smarter though, which is his and his party's biggest challenge if he wants to be taken seriously.
    Sunak was another - a multi millionaire with no grasp of reality, promising unicorns in the hope of votes.
    Keir Starmer is the same in terms of his background but at least he seems to be cognisant that he has to deal in truths, albeit hard ones.

    In a nutshell, my issue is this: Telling people want they want to hear is easy. For any party, left or right. Here, a unicorn for you! And you! And you...
    But we all have to Govern and Live in reality.
     
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  5. chemgator

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    Great Britain's poop has been elevated to new levels of archaeological brilliance! The residence of Harald Godwinson, the last non-French king of Middle-Ages England in 1066, has been found, thanks to his now infamous toilet. Harald, if you recall, was able to defeat the Viking onslaught in 1066, but folded two weeks later under a French onslaught led by William the Conqueror. (The defeat was portended by the arrival of Halley's Comet a few weeks earlier.) Only the most elite of England's society had toilets at that time, and Harald's toilet was obviously disgusting enough to be royalty.

    1,000-year-old lost residence of King Harold found, thanks to a toilet

     
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  6. oragator1

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    Ironically, it was still kinda the Vikings that got him. The French attack came from Normandy, the area settled by the Vikings, and called Normandy because it was French for north man. Also a historical irony that the greatest invasion from France and the most famous invasion of France occurred at the same place.
    There are conflicting stories about how poor Harald died, the Normans said he took an arrow through the eye, a contemporary account basically said they found him and mutilated him. Either way, it didn’t end well.
     
  7. chemgator

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    Let's not worry about who mutilated who . . .

     
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  8. AgingGator

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    Trickster, you need to read and listen to LimeyGator. I make two trips/year to the UK for business. The place, meaning the culture, is a mess and it started and gained full momentum long, long before Brexit.
     
  9. duggers_dad

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    Sounds like you’re saying Britain’s not a bad place, apart from Brits.